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No More Free Table in Ehrenberg! Volunteers needed to clean it up.
#31
any permanent structure built on public land is illegal unless the proper permits were granted. that table looks permanent to me. it needs to go, no matter who built it. this ain't 1870. my 2 cents, highdesertranger
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#32
I heard stories that back in the day (1960 ish) young people would look for those spools to use in there apts. as a cheap dining table.  It looks just like one of those old spools that linemen for either the phone company or electric company would use for cables, etc.  Pretty sure that was before my time,LOL.
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#33
^^^^
1960's??? I had more than a couple friends that had "tables" like that in the 1980's
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#34
Anything older than 25 years is considered a "historic artifact" and is supposed to be left as-is. Don't ask me how to date rusty tin cans and old beer bottles.
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(12-27-2017, 01:10 PM)blars Wrote: Anything older than 25 years is considered a "historic artifact" and is supposed to be left as-is.  Don't ask me how to date rusty tin cans and old beer bottles.

Hi, I was curious about this so I did some online research.

The following websites all state that an item may (as in might) be considered a historic artifact if it is at least 50-years old, and definitely 100-years. Some items that are 50-years old may still be considered trash. 

If anyone is interested in learning more about this, here are some informational links to start you off. I personally don't know any more than what I have read in these articles, so don't ask me any questions. Just passing this info along.  Angel

Collecting on Public Lands - A BLM Publication:
https://www.blm.gov/sites/blm.gov/files/...lands.pdf/

A Forum Discussion called Laws Prohibiting Stealing of Artifacts in which some people (some who sound like they work for the government) did some serious research on the subject. This will answer a lot of questions.
http://forums.ghosttowns.com/archive/ind...7029.html/

Historic Glass Bottle and Identification Website - by the BLM
https://www.blm.gov/historic_bottles/

Removing Trash Without Disturbing History
https://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news...ng-history

Have fun!!!  Dodgy
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#36
dang, I guess I might be a historical artifact. who'd have thunk. highdesertranger
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#37
That table was built in early January 2017 though. It said it right on the table (I think it said 1/6/17 or something of that nature IIRC), when we found it after moving to Ehrenberg after the RTR.
Does not quite qualify as an historical artifact, I'm afraid.
Sorry to be a party pooper!
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#38
This thread drifted off topic and caused some confusion. The last two posts were referring to other types of desert trash, not the table. 
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So, back on topic, according to BLM rules the table should not be there, and if one of the many folks who want it gone is willing to do the work, please, have at it!
At least whoever does the deed, won't have to haul off a bunch of stuff as well as the table, because it's free of stuff! Yea! Success!
Good luck to whoever decides to do the job.
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#39
I can't imagine it was one of us who brought it--I'd guess it was a weekend ATV group that brought it for their weekends. But we are the only ones who have used it so we that makes us look guilty even if we aren't.
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#40
(12-27-2017, 01:10 PM)blars Wrote: Anything older than 25 years is considered a "historic artifact" and is supposed to be left as-is.  Don't ask me how to date rusty tin cans and old beer bottles.

Boy Oh Boy.  Now I can be a "Historic Artifact" Smile  Instead of a "Onery Ol' Bat" 
 First one trys to hang a Historical Marker on me is in for it Tongue
You'ens been warned Big Grin

Hoping to make a RTR one of these years

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