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FloorPlans-Layout drafts - requesting input
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I’ve just bought a van that I’m going to convert this summer. I’m doing some research on insulation, equipment, and layouts. I’ve made some drafts of possible layouts and I’m posting them here for feedback. I'll be starting a conversion thread soon.
Here’s the van: (a 2,000 Dodge Ram Wagon 2500)
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The windows on the driver side are similar except that the window accross from the doors is not split in two, and it is the only window in the back that can open - the bottom rotates outward like some minivan windows do. So, when it works out well, I try to put the galley here.
I measured the van and made a template of it in excel. In the layouts below, there is a grid – each little grey line represents one inch. Only the top view is shown, and I’ve written whether the heights of the storage is full or partial. The values shown for storage and galley space are in cubic inches, and the area shown for open floor space is square inches.
From a space and size perspective, it looks like the bed on side designs are not very good (though they may be easier to build initially). I want to be able to transport a bicycle inside the van, as there will certainly be times I have a bike along with me. So having capability to fit it is a plus (on some designs I note whether it seems like a bike will fit in the storage or not).
I don’t show all the details. There are some things like high level storage that will likely be up above the galley and the bed. Also, I definitely want a table. I do a fair amount of writing with pen and paper, so I want a good surface for doing that on. I don’t show the table location on most designs, but sometimes have a note about where one could be attached. Most of the designs would have a non-permanent table that I could either have in place or not at a given time.
BED IN BACK:
- A -
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- B -
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BED IN MIDDLE:
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VANAGON STYLE:
- A -
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BED ON SIDE:
- A -
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- B -
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- C -
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- D -
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What do you think about the layouts? Which one do you recommend using? (or do you have any other suggestions?). Right now, the designs I like the best are the Vanagon, The Bed in Back B, or the Bed in Middle. I don't think I've seen anyone using a design like the bed in middle. I think I'd like it because I could definitely store a bike in the back side of the storage. I would prevent use of the rear door for anything other than accessing storage, but I don't think this would be a big deal.
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BoS B or C make the most sense to me...
-Zonie
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FALCON (05-02-2015)
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(05-02-2015, 03:23 AM)ZoNiE Wrote: BoS B or C make the most sense to me...

I agree, Storage up high will raise the center of gravity. Put heavy things down low. What about solar?  If you decide on that you need a place for a distribution panel.  Batteries?

Roof vent?  My dodge had only one place to put the Fantastic fan.  I had to plan my layout around that.

Look at the different build threads and make a list of what you see that you like.

Happy planning!   
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Oh yes - there is square shaped flat spot on the roof where I plan to put the the vent fan. It is between the back of the door and the front of the wheel well, along the center axis of the van. In the first design (bed in back A) that would put the fan directly above the rear section of open floor area. In the bed in middle design, the fan would be above the middle of the bed. I don't think the fan location eliminates any of the designs.


I'll have solar panels, and the batteries will be on the floor, likely near the rear axle. Water storage would probably be near the floor on the other side of the van. As for the full height storage, I'd just have lighter things like blankets or clothes up high.
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Falcon, I've got to say I think these are the very best layouts I've ever seen! Your Excel-Fu is strong!!!

With your permission I would like to insert the layouts into the page and make it sticky, which means this thread will always be at the top of the list.

But only with your permission. Don't make be beg, it'll be embarrassing! Tongue

Bob
2015 GMC Savannah 2500 van, 480 watts of Solar Panels--and a wonderful furry best friend named Cody. I'm out to change the world!
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Thanks for the compliment Bob. No problem at all with inserting the layouts and sticky-ing
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Working on little sleep so I hope to be coherent
On BOS B and C you mentioned no pass through from the front. Why? I didn't see the front of the van on the layout as well. If you keep the front seat and install a rotating one, couldn't it be used facing the living area for company as well or as a recliner for your writing?

If you remove the front seat, what would you put there?

Just a few thoughts
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One thing I have learned the hard way. Balance your build as to the weight of the components. 65 lbs a battery, Refrigerator? I ran my power lines from my solar through the side of my roof fan box. Plan a good size panel for your electrical distribution. mine is next to my galley for ease of plug in for the 12v cooking appliances. I also have switches on each outlet as the 12v plugs are not as sturdy as they could be.
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@Trout - If I make the storage that is at the front (at bulkhead position) as wide as the bed, it would block much of the center gap between the seats. I could probably just make that storage and therefore the table less wide so it wouldn't block the passageway
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I building a Dodge 87, B250, Windows. bed folds into a seat. The bed is going across about 15 inches front of rear doors.this makes a good place for a tool box and propane tank. I will keep everything below the windows as I will enjoy the view while inside and less cave like.
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