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Sleeping in minivan, bear safety tips?
#31
Years ago I talked with a ranger at a park in KC.  He told me about some dumb yuppie "his words" that hit a Bobcat with his BMW.  He put it in his trunk, and before he got to wherever he was going, it had ripped its way into the back seat.  The idiot closed the door when he escaped, leaving the extremely angry animal inside.  

First responders all refused to open the door and let it out.  The ranger had one guy get its attention and he opened the door on the other side.  The car had to be trucked away, as it was completely shreaded inside. 

Its not nice to fool with Mother Nature!  Big Grin
Trouble rather a tiger in his lair than a sage at his books. To you kingdoms and armies are mighty and enduring, to him they are toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger. G Dickson.
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(04-21-2017, 11:03 PM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: I hate telling people their fears are irrational, because everyone has something they are scared of and lecturing them on it does no one any good.  But of all the things that could cause you harm on your trip, bears are about as far down on the list as you can get.  Moose and Deer hurt and kill far more people per year than Bears do.  Just the drive from Florida to Michigan would be more statistically dangerous.  However, you gotta do what you gotta do to make yourself comfortable and feel safe, otherwise you probably won't enjoy the trip much.  I think you'll be more at ease once you're on the road and have a few nights under your belt.  I'd be more scared of ticks and Lyme disease.

You are absolutely correct. I know that driving to and from, is more dangerous than any wildlife encounter. Original question was simply if it would be a good idea or not to bring my DAC explorer tent with food stored in van.  Here in Florida all food is left outside in raccoon proof bucket with spin lid. Cooler has a bungie and if I have a picnic table around, will slide cooler under bench. Would not leave anything outside in northern states like I do here in Florida.


What is funny is that raccoons in our wilderness beaches (yes we have many) is they are not interested in your food. They want your freshwater and will go to great lengths to get it. They destroyed many a tent and even rubber kayak hatches to get water. Water has to be stored in hard sided containers.
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#33
This probably won't make you feel better, but it was just on my facebook feed, so the timing was perfect!


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#34
We were tent camping in a nearby state park one Spring, kept hearing the usual suspects, raccoons, bunnys, squirrels, trying to get into our garbage. Late at night something BIG was making noise outside the tent, it walked behind the tent (did I mention we were camping on a bluff above the river), heard it slip and scramble and bounce bounce bounce down to the river and splash in. We laughed our butts off, you always think of animals as sure footed.
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I wouldn't keep food in a car. Bears have been known to peel the top of a car door down to get inside.

I was in Kings Canyon national park at a viewpoint. looking down I seen a storm drain grate that had been patched and reinforced. The grate was originally made heavy enough for a car to drive over it, but apparently someone dropped some food down it and a bear was determined to have it. Bears not being the smartest animal didn't lift the grate out of the holder but instead pried all the metal bars aside. Unbelievable power.
This area only has Black Bears and not the much stronger Brown Bears.
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#36
I wouldn't keep food in a car

There is always food in the car. One leftover French fry or a piece of gum is enough to bait them in.

Kathleen, Kids mostly.
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(04-22-2017, 06:50 AM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: This probably won't make you feel better, but it was just on my facebook feed, so the timing was perfect!

I know that was meant as a joke (and it is pretty funny) but actually a knife could be a valid tool against bears or mountain lions if you have it in your hand and up when the animal strikes. 

Two options:

1) slash at its eyes till it's blinded or tries to escape
2) holding the knife firmly in your fist, get it in it's mouth so when it bites down the blade is driven up into it's brain through the softest part of it's body

One more good use of a knife. I have a Cold Steel Bushman which is intended to be made into a spear. I turn it into a spear and carry it in mountain lion country. It's easy to carry up across your chest. The idea is all you have to do is bring it up and point the knife at the mountain lion as it is flying down on top of you. It's weight will force you to fall backwards and it will impale itself on the spear when you hit the ground.

It's most likely to come from behind but with some luck you can spin around and raise it in time. 

If not, well, then you just die and get eaten.
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(04-22-2017, 09:36 PM)akrvbob Wrote: I know that was meant as a joke (and it is pretty funny) but actually a knife could be a valid tool against bears or mountain lions if you have it in your hand and up when the animal strikes. 

I probably should have added,  people have actually defended themselves and killed bears with a knife.  Including Grizzlies!


http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2013/11/01/...94910.html

http://www.fieldandstream.com/articles/h...black-bear
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#39
You can always go hiking with someone slower than you.   Undecided (Which would be me.)   Sad
Trouble rather a tiger in his lair than a sage at his books. To you kingdoms and armies are mighty and enduring, to him they are toys of the moment, to be overturned with the flick of a finger. G Dickson.
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damn nature you scarry
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