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Carry a gun? Extra cash? Where?
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(04-30-2017, 08:25 AM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: What are the odds i'm pulled over, then searched, and then have my vehicle seized because they found my hidden compartment?  I'm confident enough to say there is absolutely 0 chance that will ever happen to me.
In most of the country there are attributes (which you likely don't have) that would increase those odds, in some places by a **lot**. Some of them aren't even the result of one's choices.

Just sayin'
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(04-30-2017, 08:01 AM)Optimistic Paranoid Wrote: A couple of fundamentals:

Long guns - with the exception of guns that some states classify as "assault weapons" - are legal to possess in all fifty states.  They're even legal for you to take to Canada, provided you fill out the proper paperwork at the border.  Lots of American Sportsmen go hunting in Canada.  Mexico would be a different story.

Under Federal law, it is legal to transport firearms across state lines provided that the firearm is legal where the journey starts and legal where the journey ends, and the gun is locked up in your vehicle, unloaded, and inaccessible during traffic stops.

Handguns can only be purchased in your state of residence. 

Currently, the following states permit concealed carry without any permit being necessary:  AK, AZ, KS, ME, MS, MO, NH, VT, and WV.

Currently, the rest of the country is a horrible hodge podge.  Some states permit concealed carry if you have a concealed carry permit from any other state.  Some states require a permit for concealed carry, but permit open carry without any permit. Some states will issue a non-resident concealed carry permit. (I'm in NY, and I currently have non-res permits from CT, NH, and UT).  Some states will not permit a non-resident to carry within their borders at all.  In a very few states, a non resident can't even posses a handgun - NY is one such state. Some states have really odd laws that can trip you up.  In NJ, hollow point ammo is illegal even if the gun itself is legal.

Your best source of info on all this is the web site Handgun Law:

http://www.handgunlaw.us/

Note that this site has special sections dealing with RV/CAR CARRY and LONG GUNS IN VEHICLES


A couple of the things I want to clarify here.

WY is also a state that doesn't require a permit.

However, it is my understanding that all the states that are listed that don't require a CCW permit only apply to the residents of that state. If you are a resident of another state you must have a CCW permit issues from that state and it must be reciprocal. This is exactly the reason that I will be getting a WY CCW permit even thought I don't need one here.
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(04-30-2017, 10:10 AM)DuneElliot Wrote: A couple of the things I want to clarify here.

WY is also a state that doesn't require a permit.

However, it is my understanding that all the states that are listed that don't require a CCW permit only apply to the residents of that state. If you are a resident of another state you must have a CCW permit issues from that state and it must be reciprocal. This is exactly the reason that I will be getting a WY CCW permit even thought I don't need one here.

The Handgun Law site disagrees with you. 

Yes, Wyoming residents no longer need a permit to carry concealed.  However, Wyoming law does not extend that right to non-residents.  They need a permit from one of the 35 states that Wyoming recognizes as being a valid permit.

The nine states that they list as having permitless carry - AK, AZ, KS, ME, MS, MO, NH, VT, & WV -  have no such restrictions.  They are described as follows:

"Anyone who can legally possess a firearm may carry it concealed in those states without a permit/license"
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You're not required to have a permit in Maine, but having a Maine permit extends you a few additional benefits, one being if pulled over by the police and you don't have a permit you're required to tell them you have a firearm on you, if you have the permit you don't need to tell them. And with out the permit you can't carry in the state forests, with the permit you are allowed to.

Not sure how that works for non residents, on whether or not you have to notify them, it gets very confusing from state to state and people get in trouble for technicalities all the time.

A veteran is awaiting sentencing for carrying a magazine that held 21 rounds in NY, where the legal limit is 7. Carries up to a 21 year sentence. In what world is that just? Pedophiles get off easier.
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I'm not getting into the varied aspects of gun laws; good advice and perspective already covered from folks here who know lots abt it.

However, "hidden compartments" causes me to comment. When I built my Perterbilt Motorhome project I purposely constructed a compartment intended to house my "valuables." It was well hidden and I doubt anyone would have been able to detect it.

However, when attending CRVL college to earn my degree in "Living on the Road, Vandwelling, and all That Good Stuff" I learned an important fact. There is something much better and much more effective for your valuable than a hidden compartment.

It is a heavily constructed, fireproof, locked strongbox through-bolted to the metal floor pan, or better yet to the vehicle frame.

Put anything in it you want except illegal drugs, so a drug sniffing dog will never alert on it. Because the box is secured and locked, a warrant will be required for LEOs to gain access, as they will have NO PROBABLE CAUSE. The box can be mounted anywhere you like; out of sight if possible but it certainly does not have to be "hidden."

I got mine at Staples; they have several sizes.

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My feelings exactly.  If the cops want to look inside my safe, they're going to have to break into it.  If they want to arrest me for refusing to open it without a warrant, so be it.  That's what good lawyers are for.  (I still have no idea what bad lawyers are for.  Shark bait?)
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(04-30-2017, 07:29 AM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: Nannie States could repeal their concealed carry laws all together and then you still wouldn't be allowed to carry in those states under the new proposed federal legislation.

Maybe, but I have my doubts.  A couple of decades ago, New York magazine got their hands on the list of people in NYC who had carry permits.  It read like a list of the rich and politically powerful, including the publisher of the New York Times and Donald Trump.
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SS:  "Bear spray says right on my canister 'not to be used on humans', although that would not stop me if that is all I have to protect myself."

That doesn't make any sense at all -- it's probably one of those stupid disclaimers to prevent the mfgr from being sued.  Bear and dog spray is not allowed to be stronger than 2% -- both have very sensitive noses, so it doesn't take more, plus it's also designed to be a training tool, as well as a deterrent.  Human-deterrent pepper spray usually seems to start at a strength of 10%.  The only other difference between them is that the bear spray shoots farther, about 15 feet; for humans the spray mist type goes 6-12 feet, the stream goes 8-12 feet, and the gel goes 10-14 feet.

Stick to straight pepper spay -- it's legal in all 50 states, with some restrictions as to strength and amount allowed in the dispenser in certain areas.  Those mixed with mace (tear gas) seem to be more restrictive.  As advised for guns, know what's allowed (and not) where you're going to be.  For instance, you can't carry a vial of pepper spray in CA that contains more than 2.5 oz.  However, they don't say if you can carry FIVE of them, each containing less than 2.5 oz. Big Grin

Here's a website that seems to try to keep up with the legalities, by state:  https://www.pepper-spray-store.com/pages/states
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I've always wondered what would happen if you shot a would be assailant (and for the sake of this argument, no one is questioning that the assailant meant you harm) with a gun you had in that state illegally but legally owned in your home state. Would it be likely that you'd answer for the illegal gun charge or would the police and/or D.A. let it go under the circumstances?
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(05-01-2017, 07:55 PM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: I've always wondered what would happen if you shot a would be assailant (and for the sake of this argument, no one is questioning that the assailant meant you harm) with a gun you had in that state illegally but legally owned in your home state.  Would it be likely that you'd answer for the illegal gun charge or would the police and/or D.A. let it go under the circumstances?

If you asked each of the 99 County Attorneys in Iowa that question you'd get 99 different answers.  I'm sure it'd be even more disparate in other states.
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