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How much H20 do you need to boondock for a week?
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For a couple on the road....

Trying to think about our style of full timing, "about a week" seems to ring true for me on most subjects related to being out in the country with little to no services (water, electric, dump):

- How long are you willing to go without decent Internet?
- How long can you before needing to do laundry?
- How long can you go with sponge baths before a real shower?
- How much food can you carry?
- How long can you go before you get bored or need a change of scenery?
- How long before your composting toilet fills? (really not sure if this is a week or more/less)

So if my limits are "about a week" for most things, how much H20 do you personally use up in a week or per day provided you aren't taking multiple, full showers? Maybe one Navy shower or a solar shower per person, per week plus sponge baths while in the boonies, then hit up a real shower when we head into town?  How many gallons of gray water would you estimate?

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The rough rule of thumb is "one gallon per person per day".

Double that if you are in an arid area.

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We have a small class C with a lot of storage. We also like to be comfortable so we live pretty much as we would in a stationary house - cooking most of our meals, using all of our appliances (except the furnace which is an energy hog) and our batteries to their full extent, and taking daily showers. We very rarely have any type of hookups.

Internet - three days without any internet and I feel like I'm missing out on events here, with friends and family and the entire world but if the internet is just slow I can go much longer
Laundry - we have three weeks of underwear and socks so three weeks
Showers - Navy showers daily. We have about 40 gallons of water which are used for showers, toilet flushing, drinking, cooking and cleaning. Obviously, the water would last much longer if we didn't take showers but we get five days before we need to dump and fill.
Food - we have at least a month of nonperishable food, several weeks of perishable food stored in the refrigerator and freezer - standard RV size so not very big
Change of scenery - we wander at a lot so we don't stay anywhere very long but we do stay the entire two weeks of the RTR and we have stayed over a month when visiting friends and family.
Don't have a composting toilet but our RV toilet fills in a week.
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Tough Q to answer for someone that's not me...

I'd say 5 gallons should be enough for just drinking and maybe cooking.

Flushing and showers???

You said you need to dump the tanks in a week , so add their capacity to that 5.

40 gal potable tank plus..a couple of 5-6gal jugs in your tub/shower would be an option or a bunch of 1 gal ones stashed wherever you have room.

Your best bet is to do a test run somewhere you have access to water for when you do run out. I did this a couple of times at a campground by just removing the water hose..
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Many things can bump up the number - water intensive cooking, a hot/dry environment, long showers, leaving water out for pets, flushing toilet, etc. If you drink soda or beer and eat watermelon all day and never shower you won't need much.

When I went to Burning Man I would go through 1.5 gallons per day including a navy shower and that's about as intense an environment as it gets.

Bring a few extra gallons your first time and try it out before buying heavy reusable containers.
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(06-08-2017, 12:30 PM)Reducto Wrote:  beer 


It should perhaps be noted that the human body uses water molecules to break down alcohol. So drinking beer will, over time, DE-hydrate you. It should not be relied upon in any way as a substitute for drinking water.

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Coffee and other caffeinated drinks don't count as water either.
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Hrmmm rvpopeye and Reducto have some vastly different estimates...

No flushing, would use a composting toilet. Apologies for the confusion.

Thinking about this, I would be showering while out in the wild so perhaps outdoor solar shower and no need for gray water tank in that sense.

But rvpopeye said:

For 2 people, 5 gallons. Is that 5 gallons a day? 5gal * 7 days = 35gal, then a few more gallons for navy showers or sponge baths you're at 40+ gallons, correct?

Then Reducto said:
1.5gal / day x 2 people = 3gal * 7 days = 21gal and that include a navy shower each day in an arid climate.

Eh?
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(06-08-2017, 01:15 PM)AntiGroundhogDay Wrote: Hrmmm rvpopeye and Reducto have some vastly different estimates...


That's because the precision you seem to be looking for is not possible. How much water does "a shower" use? Well, it depends on the person, and perhaps on the day--perhaps on the temperature outside. There simply is no precise figure, and therefore no "correct" estimate. 

All you can do is see for yourself how much water YOU use in a typical week. (And even that will vary from week to week.)

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(06-08-2017, 11:17 AM)AntiGroundhogDay Wrote: For a couple on the road....  I travel alone with a beagle so adjust.

Trying to think about our style of full timing, "about a week" seems to ring true for me on most subjects related to being out in the country with little to no services (water, electric, dump):

- How long are you willing to go without decent Internet?

Depends.  With no bad weather to track, I can go a couple of weeks or longer.  Anytime there is bad weather I like to have radar available.  I have an inReach SE to let my family know where I am and that I am OK, so I don't need internet for communication.  I have a booster and a directional antenna up 20 feet in the air, so there are not many places I cannot get at least 3G.  Beagle can go forever.

- How long can you before needing to do laundry?

I'm a guy.  I can go a long time.  I can use the 5 gallon bucket and plunger to wash clothes anytime I have enough water.

- How long can you go with sponge baths before a real shower?

I shower at least once a week; sponge bath every night.  I have learned to do a quick shower with 2 liters of water, although I usually use a gallon in a solar shower.  Beagle hates baths.

- How much food can you carry?

Fresh, as long as it will keep, usually enough for two weeks.  Ice cream lasts about 2 days (and not because it melts).  I carry canned and dry foods that will add another week or more after the fresh stuff.  I carry 15 days worth of backpacking food (dried and freeze dried).  So in total, in a pinch I can survive for 5 weeks if I can find usable water.  I carry 20 lbs of dog food = 4 weeks, stretchable to 5.

- How long can you go before you get bored or need a change of scenery?

Depends again.  If I have interesting things to do I can stay a couple of weeks, I usually stay a week or less.  If the weather or bugs or blowing dust/sand or whatever and it isn't expected to clear in a day or two; I'm moving to someplace better.

- How long before your composting toilet fills? (really not sure if this is a week or more/less)

I use a bucket (#2 only).  I have gone three weeks between dumping, could stretch it longer.  Urine gets dumped at least every morning.

So if my limits are "about a week" for most things, how much H20 do you personally use up in a week or per day provided you aren't taking multiple, full showers?

I can carry up to 14 gallons of water.  I have limited it to 1 gallon per day for me and the pup, but this is very dependent on weather.  I have 3 different ways to filter and purify water in the back country, so I can stretch that indefinitely if I can find standing water.  In Minnesota it is hard NOT to find water, so I splurge.  In Utah I can be quite stingy.

 Maybe one Navy shower or a solar shower per person, per week plus sponge baths while in the boonies, then hit up a real shower when we head into town?

I shower outside with a solar shower anytime it is convenient and I know I can replenish my water supply soon.  If standing water is available I will shower with unpurified water, saving the good stuff for drinking, etc.

 How many gallons of gray water would you estimate?    Zero.  No grey tank.

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