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How much H20 do you need to boondock for a week?
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Single 64yo male, living alone in an IMMOBILE 36' Class A on a friend's property.  Electricity comes from a single 120v 20amp extension cord, my ONLY source of power for last 25 months.  With no water hook-up I've brought all my water, except the actual water I drink, into RV in 1gal. jugs, which helps me monitor amount.  Using 16.0oz./500ml bottles of water and tracking other drinks I can estimate 3/4 gal of water through actual drinking (coffee is made with water from jugs).  I work part-time and thus I'm out of the RV no more than 40+ hours a week; I'll conveniently estimate I'm in RV alone 80% of time (Yes, I'm pretty much a recluse without even hitting the High Desert.)
Next year I WILL go mobile.  I've been planning and dreaming of finding, buying, and converting a Step Van into a re-titled motorhome.  So I've already spend hundreds of hours thinking about and estimating what I'll need and what it will take.  Based on all this rambling overkill backstory, here's what I foresee for a hoped-for isolated self-exile:

Internet: I'm an addict and haven't been without it more than a long weekend in last 25 yrs.  But I don't care.  I have a weather radio, and I always keep several blank bound notebooks (yes, the paper kind) for journals.  I've always said a man alone with his own thoughts should be in good company.  When I finally get a chance to go off into the wilderness to face the Devil, Facebook and YouTube will just have to survive without me.

Laundry:  Ok, from here on out we're assuming I'll be alone and away from people.  Thus I'll be quite comfortable wearing clothes multiple times: I'm not an active outdoors person.  With the amount of limited clothes I intend to take, multiple days each, and the fact that in the privacy of my RV I'm quite comfortable in my own skin or if it's cold a simple bathrobe...hell, 2months?  3?  With privacy and a warm clime, who knows?

Showers: Again, just me in the wilderness--with wet wipes and damp clothes I can go a day or three between showers, depending on heat and whether I *have* to do anything strenuous.  Plus i have the Navy shower down to an art; I can get CLEAN with 3 quarts.  But as far as how long I can go without a "real" shower--high pressure and all the hot water I want--hmmmm it's going on 2+ yrs. now.

Food:  During the last two winters, in case of being snowed in, I've made it a point of pride to keep at *least* 30 days of dried/canned/instant/etc. food in the pantries.  I eat food because I'm hungry, not because I'm a gourmand.  If I was headed for the hills, I could easily stock up 100+ days worth.

Scenery:  Hell, I've been stuck in one place 2yrs.

Grey tank:  I'll have a composting toilet and, out in the wilderness, a shovel.  So it depends upon how much space I'll have for TP (I'm surprised no one mentioned THAT as a limiter  LOL)

Lastly, the water.  Over last 2yrs I usually use 21-27 of the gallon water jugs a month.  I'll guesstimate a gallon of drinking fluids a day (I'm a big water drinker and I will *not* be rationing unless I have to).  The Step Van RV (SVRV) that I'm sketching up will have normal storage for 50gal, but space to easily add 70 gal more--kinda like stocking up a nuclear sub before leaving port; consumables stuck EVERYWHERE!)  So if my intention was to stay in the wilderness as long as possible depending *only* on what I bring in and therefore stocking up like mad, I can envision 3 months.  But then, I've been looking into solar stills online this past week....  ;-)

Ok this is all just projection, but it's based on my very frugal and minimalist lifestyle developed over the last 25 months in this flaky situation I've been stuck in.  I project that, if my goal is to stay out as long as possible and I have the time and $ to plan and stock up, seems like 3 months is a reasonable lower limit.
Hope someone gets some iota of use out of it.
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(06-15-2017, 03:04 PM)Kenwrite Wrote: I've been planning and dreaming of finding, buying, and converting a Step Van into a re-titled motorhome.  So I've already spend hundreds of hours thinking about and estimating what I'll need and what it will take. 

My brother.

Quote:So it depends upon how much space I'll have for TP (I'm surprised no one mentioned THAT as a limiter  LOL)

Ah, maybe we're not related...THAT'S PURE FRIGGEN GENIUS! Why haven't I thought of that?
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10 gal. for me and 100 gal for my wife ) <:
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(06-08-2017, 12:30 PM)Reducto Wrote: Many things can bump up the number - water intensive cooking, a hot/dry environment, long showers, leaving water out for pets, flushing toilet, etc. If you drink soda or beer and eat watermelon all day and never shower you won't need much.

When I went to Burning Man I would go through 1.5 gallons per day including a navy shower and that's about as intense an environment as it gets.

Bring a few extra gallons your first time and try it out before buying heavy reusable containers.

Better to overstock than not.  Remember all mentioned here.  Pets especially.
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#35
I'll play.

We bought 28 acres in eastern Washington with no well.   Wells are deep here (500 feet) and can cost $20,000 or more even if they end up not producing water.  You also need to maintain a well and supply electricity for a pump.


So....I called the local city water department and found out they sell water for $5 per 1000 gallons.  We went to North40 outfitters and bought a 350 and 200 gallon ACE pick up truck style tanks  (safe for potable water).   About $200 for the 350 and $169 for the 200.

We have a 37 gallon tank in the living pod.

After a couple of months here I am finding we use about 200 gallons a month for two people, taking about 2 showers a week.   We don't really do anything when it is hot except play games and watch tv so not exactly getting sweaty and grimy.

It seems to be working pretty well.  $5 per month is a lot of months vs $20,000 for a well.  Zero maintenance too and the feed is gravity.
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(08-05-2017, 11:35 AM)IGBT Wrote: I'll play.

We bought 28 acres in eastern Washington with no well.   Wells are deep here (500 feet) and can cost $20,000 or more even if they end up not producing water.  You also need to maintain a well and supply electricity for a pump.

So....I called the local city water department and found out they sell water for $5 per 1000 gallons.  We went to North40 outfitters and bought a 350 and 200 gallon ACE pick up truck style tanks  (safe for potable water).   About $200 for the 350 and $169 for the 200.

We have a 37 gallon tank in the living pod.

After a couple of months here I am finding we use about 200 gallons a month for two people, taking about 2 showers a week.   We don't really do anything when it is hot except play games and watch tv so not exactly getting sweaty and grimy.

It seems to be working pretty well.  $5 per month is a lot of months vs $20,000 for a well.  Zero maintenance too and the feed is gravity.
That's nothing short of genius!  Way cheaper than digging a well and maintaining it.   Did you have to bury your tanks below the freeze line?
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#37
A trick i use to save water while backpacking is use sand or dirt to wash dishes(like a scrub pad), then it doesnt take much to wash the dirt off. It may sound gross to some but it works for me.
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#38
All good answers. First, are we assuming an unlimited supply of 'sponge cake'?
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#39
yum, sponge cake. highdesertranger
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