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Walmart Parking lot.
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(09-24-2017, 04:18 PM)jimindenver Wrote: Pat

I don't think he was asking me.

I guess I'm having another DUH! day!

I'll just shut up now.   Big Grin
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#22
Wisconsin state law prohibits overnight parking in store lots.
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(09-24-2017, 07:01 PM)tx2sturgis Wrote: Well, that's only party true.

In an area with prohibited overnight parking (city ordinances, zoning laws, etc) it doesn't matter if the store manager allows it or not.



Yes, it matters a lot.  It's the store manager who decides whether or not to enforce the ordinance and call the cops if he sees anyone overnighting.

I've camped out numerous times in Walmarts where there was a local ordinance against it.  As long as one is not a PITA, the managers tend not to enforce it. (And the coppers are not gonna come cruising by looking for parkers unless someone calls them--they have better things to do with their time.)

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(09-25-2017, 09:55 AM)wayne49 Wrote: Wisconsin state law prohibits overnight parking in store lots.



I spent four weeks camped out at the Walmart in Neenah (I was there for the EAA Air Show). Never got bothered once.

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#25
Lenny, your van falls under the radar in stealth mode and most likely it is not obvious that the vehicle is occupied overnight.

You have often stated that you blend in, and no one knows you are there. You could park right under a NO RV PARKING sign and probably go un-noticed for days. Enforcement always depends on someone being aware of the 'infraction'.

But in an area with strict rules, ordinances, or laws against it, anyone who is obviously staying overnight in an RV, a camper, a fifth wheel, or a station wagon with clear windows, is subject to being booted out if the city police or other local constabulary are called, and the manager of the store cannot override that. He or she does not have the authority to go out on the lot and tell the cops, "no, officer, that guy (or that RV) can stay overnight".

You and your van are the very essence of 'stealth', but others may be booted out while you go un-molested.

You probably have stories to that effect.

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#26
^^^^^^^

I dunno--I'm probably not actually as stealth as I might think......

Certainly the average shopper has no idea I am there. But the security folks would certainly know--at least if they had any basic competence. The solar panel on my roof is unhide-able and should be a dead giveaway to anyone in the know (though to the average shopper it probably looks like some sort of cargo rack).

I suspect that the security folks know I am there, at least after a while, and just don't care. After all, I cause no problems and attract no notice.

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#27
Tolerated is the question. Are others extended stay at that Walmart? And if so, in what vehicle type?
What size town?  There are many laws which are enforced to varying degrees in various different locations. More anslysis/detail might give better insight.
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#28
Yep.


Enforcement on scene is often up to the manager or local officers or private security. 

But as I said, if there are local laws or ordinances that require the posting of no parking signs, the store manager can't invalidate those laws or regulations. He has no authority to do so.

If you go un-noticed, or only slightly noticed, then that is to your favor.

This Walmart in Amarillo has multiple signs that clearly state "No Overnight Truck or RV Parking".

So technically I guess, my van (in the last picture) was OK...but it doesn't matter...there are almost always dozens of RV's parked there every night.

   

   

   

   

   
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#29
Sometimes overnight parking restrictions are for the safety of the campers. I know of A city where the store prohibited overnight parking at the original store in a crappy part of town but allows overnights at the new store a few miles away. I wouldn't want to be alone in the parking lot of the old store late at night.
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(09-25-2017, 01:17 PM)tx2sturgis Wrote: But in an area with strict rules, ordinances, or laws against it, anyone who is obviously staying overnight in an RV, a camper, a fifth wheel, or a station wagon with clear windows, is subject to being booted out if the city police or other local constabulary are called, and the manager of the store cannot override that. He or she does not have the authority to go out on the lot and tell the cops, "no, officer, that guy (or that RV) can stay overnight".


Is the Walmart parking lot not owned by Walmart, which makes it private property? 
If Walmart post signs, in the Walmart parking lot stating, "No overnight parking". Would it not be up to Walmart to enforce their right to call a wrecker service and have them removed?  Is it not the right of Walmart to call local law enforcement to escort and or arrest the violator's?
Is the local government not over reaching their authority, by making laws against private property owners for allowing overnight parking on their property?
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