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What will it take to navigate these roads safely?
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I'd like to navigate the following roads in a RAV4 Hybrid SUV (if I go solo) w/ 7in of ground clearance:

Mostly these types... 
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Once in awhile these types of roads...
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And roads where I'm probably looking for a bit of trouble...
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I'm interested in opinions on the type of tire I need for these roads and tools for self-assist if I get stuck.  Heck maybe you think this SUV can't handle some of these roads with the ground clearance it has period?!  Maybe I don't have enough storage in a little SUV for the proper tools?

Questions....

- Would the stock, all-season passenger SUV tires be problematic on the tougher roads?

- While trying to maintain MPG, would this LT tire be ~more~ than I need?  Just right?  Not enough?
Geolander

- I see traction boards mentioned often (I like these because they fold: Traction Jack, but wouldn't this be more compact in my tiny SUV?  Trac - Grabber  Maybe they are not as effective?

- I suppose a compact shovel, tire plug kit with compressor and spare tire would be desirable.  Plus I'd have a snatch strap for anyone that came along that could help pull me out.  Any other tools?

Basically I want to be reasonably self-sufficient out there.  I want the ability to venture out solo in a safeish way (I know nothing is guaranteed), but I have to admit I'm a little scared our being out in the middle of no-where alone.  Should be fun getting over my fear! Thanks!

(Big credit to Vanholio for supplying the pics, as he's on the road actually doing this stuff and I'm stuck in a desk job....for now. :p)
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1st pic no problem that's a maintained road.
2nd pic what you can see looks fine but these roads can go from fine to impassable quick. it appears that at one time that road was maintained but isn't now.
3rd pic getting a little rougher. looks ok in that pic but obvious water damage. could get bad quick.
4th pic drive slow watch for sharp rocks. when driving in fractured rocks go extremely slow. this road also has water damage.
5th pic again drive slow try to miss the larger rocks. this road looks like a prospecting track see the tailing piles on the right.
in all the pics the roads at that point look passible for a 2wd and are fairly easy roads. just slow down and pick your line carefully. when I say slow I mean under 10mph even slower sometimes.
spare tire is a must. traction mats might help. a good jack is a must. plenty of food and enough water to swim in. a ham radio helps.
on a light weight vehicle like yours those tires look ok. why 17's? is that what you have now?
if you are going to the RTR go to the getting unstuck seminar. I might think of something else latter. highdesertranger
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#3
Roads like that are not bad when dry, but after a few days of rain?

Uh oh!

That's a whole 'nother story!

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Tires discussion

http://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/show...?tid=27131
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(10-21-2017, 07:08 AM)highdesertranger Wrote: 1st pic no problem that's a maintained road.
2nd pic what you can see looks fine but these roads can go from fine to impassable quick.  it appears that at one time that road was maintained but isn't now.
3rd pic getting a little rougher.  looks ok in that pic but obvious water damage.  could get bad quick.
4th pic drive slow watch for sharp rocks.  when driving in fractured rocks go extremely slow.  this road also has water damage.
5th pic  again drive slow try to miss the larger rocks.  this road looks like a prospecting track see the tailing piles on the right.
in all the pics the roads at that point look passible for a 2wd and are fairly easy roads.  just slow down and pick your line carefully.  when I say slow I mean under 10mph even slower sometimes.
spare tire is a must.  traction mats might help.  a good jack is a must.  plenty of food and enough water to swim in.  a ham radio helps.
on a light weight vehicle like yours those tires look ok.  why 17's? is that what you have now?
if you are going to the RTR go to the getting unstuck seminar.  I might think of something else latter.  highdesertranger

17s are standard on the RAV4 Hybrid.  Good point about having extra food and water when you go down a road like that.  To tx2sturgis's point as well... yeah having enough supplies to wait that out is a good idea.

Do you think those Geolanders have a significant advantage over say the OEM all-season SUV tire offering?  Maybe more puncture resistant? Not headed to the RTR this year.... stuck at the desk job in the NE for now.
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I've done roads like the first three in my 2WD open-diff Express with all-season highway tires without any problems. I've done one or two like the fourth example with the same tires, but the roughness was exhausting and tedious and it turned out the trip wasn't worth it, with much nicer places being easier to get to. I don't consider the fifth example a road. It's a 4x4 trail. As tc2sturgis wrote, they're a different matter when wet -- or just moist enough for the rocks to be slippery. And steepness can be a problem. Then there's the pain in the ass of reaching an impassible spot and the last place to turn around was miles back. Or it's one of those very narrow "roads" with mountain on one side and cliff on the other and you meet someone coming the other way.
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^^^ wise words of experience. Doable, but...
Depending...
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And just to clarify...that last picture is not a 'road'...it's a trail.

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around here it's called a 2 track. a lot of times the brush is growing down the center leaving 2 tracks. highdesertranger
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I know plenty of Wyoming people, including me, who have done roads that look like each one of those pictures, including the last one, with Toyotas and GMC Yukon-type vehicles. I would potentially upgrade the tires to ATs though
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