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Unorthodox freshwater acquisiton ideas I have (serious discussion)
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Since I desire to live large where enviroment permits when it comes to water in the mobile dwelling, I'm seriously looking at these known but unorthodox methods to acquire freshwater.

#1 drawing from pristine/clearwater streams, rivers and lakes. I'm thinking of a system to take on 100 gallons of water in 10 minutes of less using a clear vinyl tube or translucent poly hose, I should be able to unreel the hose, throw the hose in the water, start the pump, reel in the hose when finished filling. The pump should be 12v, capable of 100 foot of head, and not need priming while water is sucked up to it 100 feet up from water level. I can put a strainer on the intake end.

#2 rainwater collection. On the trailer conversion I will add aluminum C-channels on both sides to be gutters, at the ends I'll have tubes which go through a screening bucket then into the freshwater tank.

#3 snow melt in winter. Take white snow and dump it into the straining bucket which discharges into the freshwater tank. Or throw snow and ice onto the roof when it will melt. I'll clean out the straining bucket when needed. 

I will install an overflow hose at the top of the freshwater tank which dumps overflow freshwater outside. All water will be treated with bleach to kill bacteria and I will test using test strips or color solution for deadly chemicals.
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free2enjoy (12-20-2017)
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I have a dumb question: if you use bleach to kill the bacteria, do you really want to then drink bleach-tainted water? Surely there must be a safer way to purify/sanitize water (I'm certainly not the expert).
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"The pump should be 12v, capable of 100 foot of head, and not need priming while water is sucked up to it 100 feet up from water level. I can put a strainer on the intake end."

You state 100' of head but are describing suction lift.

Head would be the ability to pump water to a height of 100' 'above' the pump located at the water source. That would require the pump and power for it to be located at the water source.

Suction lift is the ability to draw water to the pump from a lower point (100' in this case).

I know of no 12 volt pump capable of meeting your requirements of 100' suction, 10 GPM and self priming as well. A standard well pump will be able to do the lift and volume but will still need priming. Remember that you will need hose rated for suction, standard hose will collapse. Hose should also be rated for potable water.

I would only drink water collected from roof runoff in an emergency. At minimum let rain water run to rinse roof before collecting.

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free2enjoy (12-20-2017)
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Not all principalities look well on using public water for private consumption, farmers have been arguing these issues for a long time.
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After my post I remembered something about lifting water. The ability to self prime a pump is limited to atmospheric pressure of 33.9' of water.
http://www.physlink.com/education/askexperts/ae443.cfm

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Google watermakers, used on yachts to create clean fresh from salt water.

And yes, all water in the US belongs to someone, a crazy complex of law that varies in every jurisdiction.
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Don't suck up any Colorado River water, people have been killed for that. Check out the homesteaders sites for large amounts and hiking sites for smaller amounts. If it was easy people on the rez wouldn't be hauling so much water.
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free2enjoy (12-20-2017)
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I would pay for water as a last resort.
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you are demanding to much from a 12v pump. as Guy pointed out the difference between head and suction I won't go there. much better to put the pump at or in the water. or just do it manually with buckets. why so much water? 100 gallons for camp use would last me at least 2 months. highdesertranger
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free2enjoy (12-20-2017)
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> desire to live large where enviroment permits

12V in itself is not a power limitation.

Just that very powerful units would be specialist and very expensive.

Going uphill the pump should be at the bottom.
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