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thoughts on these for first dwelling?
#11
Aside the "ready to use" aspect less is more outdated and inefficient equipment will hamper your enjoyment. IMHO
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bethiebugs (12-27-2017)
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My choice would be the Chevy van - newer, high top, and ready for you to build out. The other choices, especially the conversion van, would involve a good deal of work on your part and then you'll have something that is good enough but not ideal because you're starting with someone else's design.
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bethiebugs (12-27-2017)
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(12-27-2017, 09:42 AM)tonyandkaren Wrote: My choice would be the Chevy van - newer, high top, and ready for you to build out.  The other choices, especially the conversion van, would involve a good deal of work on your part and then you'll have something that is good enough but not ideal because you're starting with someone else's design.

Shouldn't the high miles be of concern? This has to last me as long as humanly possible--with regular maintenance as such, of course!
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Yes I think if you do prefer the bare van DIY approach

lots more work, learning curve, long time before something "nice"

then you should look for lower miles

Even 10+ years old I think less of a problem than super high mileage

But at least check out the RoadTrek, they are quality if you like their design and layout and everything checks out mechanically you're nearly ready to start living in it immediately, that's worth a lot.

And they do hold their value, more so than even a nice DIY conversion would
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bethiebugs (12-27-2017)
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(12-27-2017, 10:29 AM)bethiebugs Wrote: Shouldn't the high miles be of concern? This has to last me as long as humanly possible--with regular maintenance as such, of course!

  Sorry, I didn't notice that the milage was double over the other ones. That is a concern but if it was a fleet work van it would have been serviced regularly and can be expected to have many more years of life. Of course your mechanic will have more knowledge than any of us so, if you can, get him to check all of your possible choices. Good luck and let us know what you find!
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bethiebugs (12-27-2017)
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I call BS on the Roadtrek. The sellers story makes a tenuous connection to Roadtrek. Trail Wagon and Chinook were the same company out of Yakima with Trail Wagon turning out conversion vans and Chinook building campers, where Roadtrek is a completely different company based near Toronto, making it seem unlikely they would partner up to build vans when Trail Wagon had their own extensive manufacturing facility in Yakima. Maybe at a stretch they purchased something like the sink/fridge module from the Roadtrek company, but that wouldn't make it a Roadtrek. A real Roadtrek 190 model is a very distinctive design with specific features; I don't see any similarities in that van to an actual Roadtrek 190. I would wager that somebody just stuck some Roadtrek 190 stickers on that van, and if you look at the pictures the stickers on the sides aren't even straight/level.
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#17
Wow, good points. In which case not necessarily toss it out from consideration, but I'd want to visit and get a feel whether this is deliberate deception, if so run away.

Otherwise value it at not much more than the base platform in the same condition, give an extra careful inspection, maybe $300 version rather than $100.
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(12-27-2017, 12:12 PM)bonvanroulez Wrote: I call BS on the Roadtrek. The sellers story makes a tenuous connection to Roadtrek. 

And don't the Roadtreks 'hide' the air conditioner in the top at the back?

I don't remember seeing any of them with that big ugly RV A/C unit up there in the wind like that. 

I can't say I'm a Roadtrek expert tho....but...just sayin...

Dodgy
Never trust a camp cook with lots of shiny new pans...
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bethiebugs (12-27-2017)
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The Roadtrek brochure for 1997 shows only Dodge chassis as a 190 (either Popular or Versatile).  The add doesn't say either of these and states Chevy.  The interior looks nothing like a Roadtrek layout and it doesn't appear to have standing room inside.

Here is a link to all of their brochures, past to present: http://www.roadtrek.com/brochures/

I also think the decals were added to get that "I got a Roadtrek" appeal as they are a high end B camper.  I've got an old 2000 Roadtrek 200 Versatile.  The 190 Popular normally has seating for three up front and the Versatile has seating for four.

I am not an expert either (well, maybe a has been spert under pressure)  Big Grin Big Grin
Brian

2000 Roadtrek 200 Versatile "The Beast" (it has been tamed hopefully)  I feed it and it doesn't bite me.
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bethiebugs (12-27-2017)
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Jeez...yes. I just spent the last few hours discovering all you guys are saying--that this, as described and named, is not a real thing and none of it adds up! Thank you for corroborating this--as I was VERY confused! Well, okay then...moving on to others!
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