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Chevy Express question
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(12-29-2017, 08:16 AM)frater secessus Wrote: V6 versus V8 is a holy war along the lines of 9mm vs .45, synthetic vs. dino, etc.  I'd compare reliability and MPG if I were making the decision on economy.
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The base V6 in the eurovans (Transit, Promaster, and NV) has more power than every van V8 mentioned so far in this thread. 

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I have the 2500 V8. My opinion is it is better to have the power in case you need it. Bigger is better.
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(12-29-2017, 05:32 PM)frater secessus Wrote: The base V6 in the eurovans (Transit, Promaster, and NV) has more power than every van V8 mentioned so far in this thread. 

The base V-6 in most of these older domestic vans is an older design pushrod engine, with a 3 or 4 speed automatic, and the V-6 in those new euro vans is a newer overhead camshaft design with things like variable valve timing, 6 or 7 speed automatics, and other goodies that bring more performance to the table. 

So even though both are a V-6, there is more performance in the newer V-6 that you have, compared with the older designs. And that is the reason that the V-6 in the Chevy is not really the engine of choice for most of us. 

Just FYI: most OTR trucks have a six cylinder diesel engine...of course its bigger, but still, it's 'only' 6 cylinders. 

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Yes the question was Chevy Express engines, not V6 vs V8 in general
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The question was about Express engines but about half the answers weren't:


Quote:I would not buy a full size van with a V-6

Quote:I have a 98 Dodge 1500 with a V8 and wouldn't ever go smaller


Quote:I wouldn't ever recommend a 6 cyl engine in a full size van

That's why I mentioned full sized eurovans with V6 engines are stronger than the V8 engines mentioned in the thread.  I am concerned that broad generalizations about engine 
configuration or displacement can mislead newbies into ruling out options that might be a good fit for them.

The real takeaway:  all of the express owners in the thread have been happy with the engine they bought, whether V6 or V8.  
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Well I'm gonna totally go against the majority out here and NOT by experience, let me say again not by "MY OWN EXPERIENCE". I work in whats called the expediting industry (basically delivering freight like 18 wheelers) only, in a van. I discuss, communicate & swap information regarding all types of vans on a daily, weekly, monthly basis with hundreds of members within our own expediting community. We have folks driving the promasters, transits, mercedes, nissans, chevys Etc. Etc. And as I stated we continually discuss the ins and outs of ALL these vans trying to gain a general understanding of which one would or is the more profitable, safest, mechanically sound van to stay or go with.

I told you the back story to give some validity to what im about to tell you, apologies, LOL.

So in the time I been doing this I have crossed paths with quite a few guys who do in fact run the 6 cyl. Chevy vans out here in (the expediting) industry, which means they haul in these 6 cyl Chevy vans on a regular basis anywhere from 100lbs to 2,500lbs REGULARLY in the back of these vans. The load changes frequently, its not a consistent 2,500lbs nor is it a consistent 100lbs so the weight they carry changes from load to load. But do understand, they are traveling (NON-STOP) everyday putting the van through its paces hundreds of thousands of miles weekly! Is it as strong as a V8, no. Is it gonna pull like a V8, no. But the question was asked concerning a V6 so my input is a V6 can and does do the same job as a V8 and does it as long as a V8 so long as the driver keeps up general maintenance.

So YES the V6 Express is plenty strong enough.

The drivers I speak to who run these vans love them, say they do the job thats asked of them, do they complain about a lack of power goin up mountains in Colorado, yes. But overall they have no problems with the vans so long as you know the task that is sat in front of you when hauling a particular amount of weight. We have drivers out here getting in excess of a million miles on some of these gasoline engines and then we have guys that only get 200k and KABOOM! Its all in preventative maintenance and driver ability to asess the obstacle put before the van in question on how hard to push it or rather take it nice and easy. You have drivers hammering down on the gas pedal, engaging the passing gear going up a mountain the entire way up without letting off (thats the 200k or less guy). Then you have the smart guy who babys it the entire way up, or gets a good start on the hill in front of him without engaging the engine hard or pounding the trannys passing gear, the guy hammering down gonna get to the top what, 20 seconds faster? Is that 20 seconds worth losing a tranny or blowing an engine?

By the way, I have a 2017 Ford Transit T350 Eco Boost Brand new off the lot, 9 months old. I have 107,000+ miles on it.
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(12-30-2017, 09:37 AM)frater secessus Wrote: The question was about Express engines but about half the answers weren't:

My answer was in context with the OP's question, and was not intended to be taken as a broad dismissal of all other V-6 engines in all other makes of vans with different V-6 technology. The title of the thead says Chevy Express Question, so my answer was intended to be a Chevy Express Answer, or at least, it was my opinion in regards to Chevy V-6 engines in a full size van. I owned a Chevy V-6 powered half-ton pickup for 20 years! They are not the strongest mill by any means, but they can be fairly economical when lightly loaded and driven sensibly.

Sorry for the confusion. 

Now having said that, most vans have 2 or 3 engines available, but of course, some do not. Usually, if there is a larger engine available it means there is also an increase in towing capacity. Again, not always, but sometimes. 

This post is only for the purpose of clarification, if needed.
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(12-29-2017, 10:44 PM)John61CT Wrote: Yes the question was Chevy Express engines,  not V6 vs V8 in general

Actually he was discussing (Or wanting to) discuss 2 different engines and 2 different vans. A V6 in a 2500 will obviously use more gas since it's pulling a larger load. The thing also that should have been broached is "Where will you drive?" Hilly country a V8 is preferred. Flat land a V6 will do in most every case (Since he's not towing) 

But my personal feeling is a V6 is great, fine and dandy, for a 2-4 dr sedan CAR.  The V8 will get you into (And out of) danger quickly. Plus it has power that the V6 can't match. 

That's why I will only deal with V8.
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Plus towing or carrying any heavy loads.
Even if you think you're never going to go up any hill, is that really the way to choose a vehicle?
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