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Drumming Circle on Monday 12/15 at the RTR!
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(01-02-2018, 09:23 AM)MrNoodly Wrote: I'm thinking more like this:  37.712868, -98.978737

This is a good point, but an unreasonable suggestion.

Kind of like this:

Generator tones carry quite a distance too, and they get monotonous after about two minutes. May I suggest any generator usage be held farther from camp. Like, oh, Albuquerque.

Thanks for the input?????  

I'm trying to facilitate a respectable response here.

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I don't like generators, but they're necessary for some people. Drumming is unnecessary.

But anyway, the first suggested coordinates are too close to camp. In fact, if the crowd is as large as last year, that's pretty much in the center of camp. So, how about over on the east side of the access road, like this: 33.652592, -114.144010. Or much farther north and west, like this: 33.657669, -114.153299
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(01-02-2018, 09:44 AM)MrNoodly Wrote: I don't like generators, but they're necessary for some people. Drumming is unnecessary.

But anyway, the first suggested coordinates are too close to camp. In fact, if the crowd is as large as last year, that's pretty much in the center of camp. So, how about over on the east side of the access road, like this: 33.652592, -114.144010. Or much farther north and west, like this: 33.657669, -114.153299

Generators necessary? Dodgy I won't even go there....


Those are two great locations as well!   Maybe the original poster could chime in here too?  

At this point I could care less where they hold a one hour drum circle, but I appreciate the original poster mentioning wanting to be considerate to others in the area..............
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SondraRose (01-02-2018)
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Thank You Van Man Dave for that location suggestion of the Medicine Circle. It looks like a great option! At this point, I'd love to 'bookmark' it, and think evaluate a little more when it come to location, but it looks like that place is a good option! How easy it it to get to, I wonder? And is it still too close to camp? Perhaps it would be better to have it closer to the access road? Just some things I'm thinking about.

I also think it's important to note that the circle that I'm envisioning is not about being as loud as possible, and banging in an ugly way. Drum circles are best when melodic, and more 'meditative' (for lack of a better word). It should ebb, and flow, with occasional stops, even. With a new song starting; with a new intention. That sort of thing. I can even be at the site a little earlier, and teach people some basic rhythms!

I'm not planning on holding the drum circle where I camp, and plan on driving to the location. I might even have a car with several seats available, for others to carpool.
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SondraRose (01-02-2018)
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(01-02-2018, 11:43 AM)TKay Wrote: Thank You Van Man Dave for that location suggestion of the Medicine Circle.  It looks like a great option!  At this point, I'd love to 'bookmark' it, and think evaluate a little more when it come to location, but it looks like that place is a good option!  How easy it it to get to, I wonder?  And is it still too close to camp?  Perhaps it would be better to have it closer to the access road? Just some things I'm thinking about.

I also think it's important to note that the circle that I'm envisioning is not about being as loud as possible, and banging in an ugly way.  Drum circles are best when melodic, and more 'meditative' (for lack of a better word).  It should ebb, and flow, with occasional stops, even.  With a new song starting; with a new intention.  That sort of thing.  I can even be at the site a little earlier, and teach people some basic rhythms!

I'm not planning on holding the drum circle where I camp, and plan on driving to the location.  I might even have a car with several seats available, for others to carpool.

I know for sure that the medicine circle is 1500' away from the main area, but as mentioned before, it may still be too close for some.
We might look into exploring some other areas a little further out Big Grin
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Think about this.

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(01-02-2018, 02:06 PM)MrNoodly Wrote: Think about this.

https://youtu.be/UQO5Qcl8aAk

Being part Cherokee and Choctaw, I've thought about this many times in the past. 

Was there something related to the thread or discussion that you were trying to contribute here?
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SondraRose (01-02-2018)
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My Pagan ancestors from Europe had drum circles long before we knew there were people living in the Americas or what ever they were called at that time by the folks living here.  I don't see how this can be considered cultural appropriation unless you are specifically dressing up in another culture's garb and mimicking what they do.  I've been to pow wows before but not being a part of what ever tribe was having the event, I was only a spectator with deep appreciation for what they were doing.  I've been to many Pagan rituals where drums and drumming circles were present and participated because it is something I am connected with.  That being said, I believe it is both considerate and "safe" to hold the drum circles far enough away not to provoke the ire of those that don't or won't understand what it is all about.  Having been to a few circles in public parks I know all too well how disrespectful it can become when some butthead wants to display his or her buttheadedness so everyone can see just how much of a butthead he or she can be.  I'd love to be a part of this upcoming circle but alas, distance (Australia) is preventing it this time around.  Hopefully next year.  I'll leave you with this modern adaptation of Pagan drumming that hopefully stirs the spirits of your ancestors....        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpiFmZLICgM
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Van Man Dave (01-02-2018)
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I go to a lot of music festivals and drum circles drive me crazy! It's not soothing to me it's annoying just like generators are or people talking really loud and being obnoxious when you're trying to listen to music. Also other musicians can't really play their music when there's a drum circle going on, it's even hard to have a conversation. I would be okay with it if it's during a time when there's nothing else going on and it's far enough away it can barely be heard and it doesn't last very long. I'm a little doubtful though that in the wide open space of the desert you'll be able to find a spot where you're not going to bother somebody. (Sound carries) Good luck, sorry people are not very enthusiastic about your drum circle, probably been burned too many times with loud obnoxious drumming.
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Nissi (01-05-2018)
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10 bucks says we will hear generators from the drum circle Wink

Any takers?
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