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Adult RUNAWAYS?
#31
And who determines what is sustainable. I was talking to someone about buying a tiny house and he said "and your going to move your teenage daughter into 240 sq ft." My response was why not, we lived in 60 sq ft. before!
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#32
Yes it is sustainable. We full-timed for 7 years going back and forth across the country. We lived in RV's and went smaller each time and made the mistake of being sucked back into the stick and brick world about 8 years ago. I have had the call of the road screaming at me bad for the last 2 years and finally bought a van to set off in. I sat down and figured the true cost of the house and with a note under 700 a month it cost us 20K a year just to keep this SOB! That is insane, not to mention the time and energy involved, and for what? I feel I have built my prison brick by brick and mortared it together with blood and money. 

I am building the van and buying a tiny TT for her to base out of to finish up her job to get early retirement. We can save 10K off the top and set her up in a local park. The cost of being owned by the house would more than fund our life on the road! Fortunately, we are still young enough to make this work and live a purposeful life. To those of you doing it, I salute you and hope to see you next year at RTR.
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#33
I personally love having a "home base" and I also love long extended road trips with no end dates. I worked extremely hard from 16-32 before becoming disabled, so I was fortunate enough to pay my mortgage off in that time so my expenses are pretty low. As my health improves, I find myself itching to be back out on the open road and debating relocating to the west coast.
I've learned that making a living is not the same thing as making a life.
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#34
ERLH: I am so interested in your comment abt leaving your home for extended periods. What do you do to leave your home in terms of security, upkeep, cutting the grass, etc, etc? Do you rely on family or friends, or what?

Thanks for your comments!
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(04-19-2016, 04:50 AM)speedhighway46 Wrote: ERLH: I am so interested in your comment abt leaving your home for extended periods. What do you do to leave your home in terms of security, upkeep, cutting the grass, etc, etc? Do you rely on family or friends, or what?

Thanks for your comments!
When I leave my house in Maine, I drain the pipes/heating system if it's the winter.   A local landscaper plows the driveway and cuts the lawn as needed and now that i've known him for a few years will stop in and check up on the place if he hasn't seen me there in a awhile. He'll usually text me a picture of the lawn or driveway after he does his work, so it's a nice piece of mind. I throw him a few hundred extra at Christmas time and that is money well spent in my opinion.  I have had a few break ins, seems like they only want electronics as thats all that's ever been taken is a few cheap tvs  

My uncle lives in Alaska and now leaves for the winters.  His property is a bit more rural with a long driveway, so he does the same, empties pipes, uses the game camera signs and installed a gate at the end of his driveway to make it a little harder for anyone wanting to do what they shouldnt be doing.  

However, the cop suggested I put a sign up that says "game camera in use" and even use them if I was so inclined.  Never got around to buying one, but did put the sign up a few years back and haven't had a break in since.  People are leery of being photographed by a hidden camera I guess.
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#36
I know of someone who went as far as installing fake cameras. No problems since.

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Hi folks........I owned my first home in SD from 1986 into 1996.  At that time I worked in SD at anything I could to stay in the area and work on my home as it had sat empty for 8yrs. when I bought it and really needed attention.     I would go back to Tx in the fall and work until spring, usually at 1 to 3 jobs to get $$$$$ to go north to work/live in my house.

I had good friends from SD who I met when they came to to TX,  They had "retired" in a ext. cab pickup and new 35ft. T.T   both were working within a few mos....... due to boredom I think.

This is what we did each fall that I went south.

1   turn off all water to the house 
2   drain the hot water heater
3   my friend would use compressed air to blow out the water lines while the faucets were open 
4    pour pink RV water drain antifreeze in all the sinks & tub pipes
5     pour in partially drained toilet tank and flush...then pour antifreeze in to toilet bowl
            WE USED A LOT OF ANTIFREEZE...IT WAS CHEAP BACK THEN
6      TURN OFF THE FURNACE.

I never had a freeze up in 7yrs.  The above steps are out of order however if you just move #5 above #3  I think that's it as far as shutting down the house. 

 We did this no matter the season unless it was warm and they were also in SD,  in case I didn't get back they would shut it down for me. Waldo also did lawn work P.T.  and would mow my yard and keep a eye on the house.

One year we were all in TX and the yard wasn't mowed for several mos.....no ticket from the town was waiting for me or a mowing bill.  We had to hack a path to the back door......a little later I heard 2 mowers going,  Waldo and one neighbor I didn't know plus another one bringing tools to use....I am from the south and live here now.......we pride ourselves on Southern Hospitality however Northern Hospitality was and is alive and well in Hurley SD.  I think I'll call up there right now!

If I am unable to run away or is it run to a life on wheels 24/7  I may just move north for the spring thru fall and drag my happy self down to TX for the cold weather season.

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#38
My only concern is to NOT be a burden on my children.

Honestly, I won't seek medical attention if I am having heart trouble..etc.

My great grandma did that. She had a somewhat mild heart attack on a Friday. Called family over the weekend, settled her affairs. Forbid anyone from taking her to the hospital. The next and more massive heart attack came on Monday night. Her choice.
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#39
My 2cents,

Joining the Rat Race starts early with Parents saving for the kids  }}} College Education {{{.   Then raising him/her to be a determined, respectable, and competent achiever.  The education will likely prepare the youth for a job in "corporate business" only where he will be expected to pursue the "golden carrot" until his mid 60's or longer.  (and often for far more than 40 hours a week)   A lot of people doing this now are beginning to realize it is as rigged as the investment banking industry.

I've known a few families who made sure that their kids got a trades education where they could travel anywhere, work from a Union Hall etc, (or non union if they wanted)  and then got them a 2 year Business
School education so they could be better with their trade. (work self employed)   They could always go back to Business School for two more years to get a "Bachelors" degree in Business and use it with their trade.  Thus they could work for a firm at their trade or in some administrative capacity if they chose to do so.  

There are those I've known those who went to college and acqauired a couple of Masters Degrees and rarely made more than $15 dollars an hour,  while the guy who carried the mail and delivered it to their office was making $30 an hour (and got all the overtime he wanted).   The Mail Man could bid and travel to other areas for work where the  well educated Corporate worker was trapped with his company hoping and praying he would be able to retire and get a pension. (with no real assurance that that would happen)  Often businesses just purchase Annuity  policies to serve as pensions for employees and those employees could purchase their own and have a lot more control over their retirement.  This is where a lot of these faithful employees find their "golden carrot" at retirement is more like a "golden raisin".

There is one woman in my area who was famous for telling her son that if he doesn't go to college and get a degree,  he'll have to dig ditches.   He went and got the degree and taught school for a couple of years.   Hated it and quit. (a lot of that was due to the low pay and BS he had to put up with)   He found work with a
sewer company working in the field doing what else,  digging ditches.   He now makes over $20 an hour. (nearly twice what he was making)

Trades such as "electrician".  "Carpenter",  "Plumber", "HVAC", "Welder",  "Mechanic", "Photographer", "VA" (virtual assistant with office skills or accounting), etc will always be in demand.   If he wants to travel,  he can work around the USA and see the country as he works.  He may even be able to travel to other countries and work. 

If this is all grounds for being an "Adult Runaway" who can beat the time of all the other Lobsters & Crabs still trapped in the pot with their fancy educations and "seniority",  then I'd be inclined to call this being an "Adult Running Towards a Better Life".
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(05-13-2016, 07:47 AM)eDJ_ Wrote: My 2cents,

Joining the Rat Race starts early with Parents saving for the kids  }}} College Education {{{.   Then raising him/her to be a determined, respectable, and competent achiever.  The education will likely prepare the youth for a job in "corporate business" only where he will be expected to pursue the "golden carrot" until his mid 60's or longer.  (and often for far more than 40 hours a week)   A lot of people doing this now are beginning to realize it is as rigged as the investment banking industry.

This is sooooo true and what I've been saying since I decided I want to run away from home, hence my blog title.  hahaha

I did all of this.  My parents told me I had to "make something" of myself.  I started working full time right out of school, kept moving up the ladder over the years.  Ten years out of high school decided to put myself through college to move up that ladder faster.  I worked full time and went to school full time nights to earn my degree.  Kept moving up that ladder.  I'm now 46 and do pretty well for myself.  On the outside people would think I have a pretty nice life, and I do.  I have a nice home, newish car, great job that makes great money, I have all the things in my home that most would consider beautiful, I go camping, go to lots of concerts, go on vacations.....all the things that mark one as 'successful'.

But I sit here and feel like I'm missing so much, that there has to be more to life than living this rat race.  Am I terrified about leaving a great paying and secure job and giving up everything I own to live in a van and travel the country?  YES!!!!  But I think once I get past that initial fear, it will be the best thing I have ever done with my life.

It gets pounded in our heads at a young age what "normal" is but it's all a scam.  It's time to live life to the fullest and amazing experiences is far richer than having a secure job and living on auto mode.
~ Cheli ~

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