VanDweller Community Forums

Full Version: Looking down on the car/vandweller.
You're currently viewing a stripped down version of our content. View the full version with proper formatting.
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5
(09-30-2014, 11:05 PM)akrvbob Wrote: [ -> ]Try to see it from their point of view, every day they see hundreds of homeless people who are either mentally unable to get out of being homeless or desperately want to get out of being homeless but can't. All their experience is that being Homeless is bad and to be avoided.

They share that view with 99% of America, are we going to hate and insult all of them? Or should we do what Owl said and try to have understanding and open a dialogue?

On the other hand, nearly all of us our experience the "homeless" which are vandwellers, as being very happy with their lives.

I can promise you this, we vandwellers are a teeney tiny percentage of all Homeless. As a percentage, the view of the Rescue Mission is much more accurate than ours.

Neither of us are wrong, or evil, we just live in different worlds.
Bob

I have been there, and can appreciate the difference. I was homeless with a family and three little children. Once again the only real help was from private sources, and not the government.

I am not homeless, I am on an extended Walkabout.
Quote: if someone really intends something for my good out of honest compassion, I should celebrate that attitude and not hate them for it.

'Honest compassion' comes from individuals, not from institutions.
(09-30-2014, 11:05 PM)akrvbob Wrote: [ -> ]All their experience is that being Homeless is bad and to be avoided.

They share that view with 99% of America, are we going to hate and insult all of them? [b]Or should we do what Owl said and try to have understanding and open a dialogue?

Neither of us are wrong, or evil, we just live in different worlds.
Bob
(Paraphrased)

Another excellent point!

Another good example I see often is how people handle it when they have to interact with hospice workers. Some are open to the idea of a good death while others are not. Depending on what your self image is based off of determines your thoughts and beliefs about the hospice philosophy. I can tell you there are a great range of reactions from out right hatred (rare) to complete acceptance. I accept all reactions as being valid to the owners of those reactions but also have the right to have my own individual beliefs. But I also avoid interacting with minds that are closed.
Homeless shelters, assistance programs, hospices - all very good things and I am sure the majority of those running them have their hearts in the right place. But were I full-timing in my van, have all the amenities I need, am not starving, am enjoying my life, and have my mail forwarding, online banking, and other societal contact needs met, it would really irk me to be considered "homeless". I have a 'home', it is simply mobile.
Perhaps if we as a viable 'mobile community' could contact and educate these folks running these entities, let them know that we are NOT homeless and have good enriching lives, they could be made to understand?
Maybe we shouldn't be so thin-skinned that we get mad at the vast majority of people who simply don't understand.

Our being mad at them has no impact on them at all, but it does real harm to us.

Bob
it didnt really bother me...remember the context..they are writing about people that ARE homeless, relevant to their mission, and where they might be found so help can be gotten to them. fact is those people CAN be found in cars also.
Quote:Living without a home of your own is a devastating experience. But sleeping without a home is downright difficult. Some of these places receive media attention. Others may surprise you. But all of these overnight accommodations are completely unacceptable for regular human habitation.

And if you read carefully, you will see the problem. Since many of you haven't I will point it out. The Quote should read

"Living without a HOUSE of your own is a devastating experience. But sleeping without a HOUSE is downright difficult. Some of these places receive media attention. Others may surprise you. But all of these overnight accommodations are completely unacceptable for regular human habitation."

The writers of the article mistakenly assumes that a HOUSE is a HOME and only a HOUSE or similar structure (apartment, townhouse, etc) is able to be a HOME. Unfortunately a large segment of the population thinks the same way. I have had folks feel sorry for us because we live in a converted school bus. They have never seen it, never been in it (nor would they be allowed either) yet they seem to have a mental image of a school bus... with all the seats still in it apparently.... that does not remotely compare to the Residential Vehicle that we live in. You should see the look on peoples faces when I talk about things like the fireplace we just finished tiling! Gee, doesn't all schoolbuses have fireplaces in them? It's kinda fun messing with folks.
Completely unacceptable for human habitation.

I said that about my kids room more than once.

I have also slept on a couch as a child that felt that way to my back.

Then there was that residential hotel in the Napa Valley...

My opinion is just as valid as any one else's.

My opinion and $4.50 will buy a fancy cup of mediocre coffee at Starbucks. (What happened to a good 5 cent cup of Joe?)

My home is what it is. No apologies and always continuing improvements. I drive away in my fully paid for and insured home while "they" drive their leased car to their over priced rental from a job that almost pays to keep up the style.

In the long run~~~ What ever makes you happy.
Quote:Completely unacceptable for human habitation.

I said that about my kids room more than once.
Big Grin Amen to that!
My Mom said that about my room on occasion! Smile
Pages: 1 2 3 4 5