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I've been mulling over a cargo van vs. Prius (currently thinking of the Prius V, haha) and obviously storage space is a consideration in these decisions.

So for me, when I move to a mobile life, I don't expect to work, and I would like to spent part of my time "in the country" and part of my time in urban cities hitting up attractions.  I plan on stealthing in my vehicle so storing a bicycle or scooter outside the car/van is a no-go.

- I originally thought of a folding electric bike.  Comfy, long range, compact, could use it on a relatively nice dirty trail or gravel road out in the country...but pricey and I'd need a solar setup to recharge (I haven't taken the time to see how much solar it'd take for all my needs PLUS recharging an electric bike): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zzbpzIsPgQ

But in the end cost, plus storage space it'd take up (especially inside a Prius/Prius V) would be too much.  Another huge concern is theft... I'd have to lock it up outside while I go inside a museum a few hours in a big city.  

- Then I thought of regular folding bike, but that had all the same problems except for the need to recharge. Still cost quite a bit, storage problems, and theft, etc.

- Then I thought of an electric scooter...but they are costly and those little battery packs, while yielding ~10mi range, are heavy... ~30lbs+.  So that's not really feasible to throw in a backpack or carry around in a museum and I'm certainly not locking that up to a bicycle rack outside either. Tongue

- So now I'm down to a regular, adult kick  scooter.  They are ~10lbs, less expensive than the other options, more compact for carrying into an establishment as well as easier to store in your vehicle.  They don't have to be locked outside to a bike rack, and they still allow you to cover significantly more ground in an urban environment.

Look at this video.... it hits on a lot of the pluses to a scooter.... they take public transit and seem to genuinely enjoy them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI2eltjOVqQ

Has anyone else dwelled on urban transportation before?  Thoughts?
I see them cheap/second hand all the time. I'm thinking that the taller the wheels the better. Worth a try.

Guy
seeing that they're so small, I'd use one too...but I'd keep a mountain bike handy for 'heavier' use.
(12-18-2015, 10:59 AM)Patrick46 Wrote: [ -> ]seeing that they're so small, I'd use one too...but I'd keep a mountain bike handy for 'heavier' use.

What would you define as heavier use? Like a trail around a campsite? I know a scooter wouldn't work well on dirt road, but trying to figure out what holes in my game would be left with just a scooter Maybe at a place like Quartzsite?
I have thought about this in the past as well, and have found from personal experience that for me at least, scooters don't work. While they are small and compact, if you need to go to the store and your riding one, sometimes you need more than you backpack can handle. Also, how might you go about tying it up for security while you are in the store? If I were to go with a scooter, I would go with an electric or a gas powered one.
(12-18-2015, 12:07 PM)Chancebond Wrote: [ -> ]I have thoughtt about this in the past as well, and have found from personal experience that for me at least, scooters don't work.  While they are small and compact, if you need to go to the store and your riding one, sometimes you need more than you backpack can handle.  Also, how might you go about tying it up for security while you are in the store?  If I were to go with a scooter, I would go with an electric or a gas powered one.

Well the goal would be to strap the scooter to my back or backpack.  Also some scooters have what iscalled trolley mode where you can wheel it around.  AdAn electric scooter would weigh way too much for what I'm thinking in my head.
(12-18-2015, 12:03 PM)Bster13 Wrote: [ -> ]What would you define as heavier use? Like a trail around a campsite? I know a scooter wouldn't work well on dirt road, but trying to figure out what holes in my game would be left with just a scooter Maybe at a place like Quartzsite?

Correct

I could see using one of those scooters if I were staying in an urban setting...but urban settings are NOT for me!!!
You'll find me out of town and out in the woods.

I'd use my bicycle for a good majority of local traveling, and I have a carrying rack on mine to haul my groceries and whatnot.
I'd like how much faster and easier it is to go from place to place on a bicycle over a scooter, and I'd also have no problem stowing my bike under my bed or just inside my back doors.
With all the interest I see for living and traveling in the Toyota Prius platform I wish the good folks at
Toyota would take notice and a produce a slightly larger version modeled after the Scion xB. (a larger compact version rather than the sub compact)

[Image: 2006_Scion_xB_.jpg]

This is a 2005  which gets about the 35 mpg with the automatic transmission.  It doesn't have a lot of ground clearance for boondocking in the deep woods but for a smaller Guy or particularly for a young Woman who is
5.5 ft tall this may be an alternative.   For a smaller Guy or Woman this 2005 xB could be refitted in the cargo area to work. (minimal with sleeping
provision in the vehicle and storage perhaps as a pull out)

http://www.edmunds.com/scion/xb/2005/features-specs/

Toyota also makes a X-Trail Tekna with Diesel that gets 53 mpg in 4WD.

http://www.nissan.co.uk/GB/en/vehicle/cr...05774.html 

Subaru Forester is an AWD crossover type that could possibly answer a smaller persons needs and be picked up used inexpensively.   A friend of mine sells cars and tells me he likes the Subaru's as they have a rather low breakdown ratio (to miles traveled).

Here is an example from the UK of converting such a small Van

http://www.campervanconversion.co.uk/pro...tin-tent-2

The only thing I'd dread with the Prius is the cost of having  to replace the Battery pack in one.
What's your budget for a scooter/bike?  I just did a quick CL search for folding bikes in the SF Bay Area (where everything is ludicrously expensive), and found several for less than $200.  
I see the folding, compact scooters often in the area, but they really only work on flat, well-groomed, paved surfaces.  They're completely unsuitable for rough, uneven or hilly terrain.  

Not trying to persuade you in any specific direction, but if you got a mini-van the bike could go on the roof, up high and out of easy reach of thieves.  
If you're not going to go solar on the Pruis, maybe get one of those aerodynamic roof boxes and stick the folding bike in there.  *out of sight out of mind*

Just some food for thought.