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Speaking of dating and relationships:

It has been my own experience, and also the "honest" experience of most of the women I've ever known over these past 58 years, that men don't want to be your friend unless sex is involved.  The minute they find out you are not interested in sex as a priority, but just a genuine friendship,( heaven forbid that should be so bad), it's goodbye.   That is WHY most women today prefer to go solo and enjoy their Lives just being themselves for a refreshing change.

Said with honesty, not sarcasm, and not men bashing - so please don't read too much in to it but just the honest truth of the matter..




Username: Seraphim
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Corinne.  What evidence do you offer to prove that 'most women prefer to go solo'?

Just curious.  I have a lot of women friends with whom I never wanted to have sex.  DW was my first last, my last, and the only one in between.  I've never had one of my friends mention they preferred going solo.  They all seem intent on maintaining relationships.  Granted, not all of them with guys...

Seraphim, I couldn't find your post here, so I copied it from the email that I received saying that it came from this forum.

What evidence do you offer to prove that you haven't wanted to have sex with the women friends that you have known over the years? ( Pretty silly question isn't it?)    A lot of women, men as well, aren't really going to come out and say that they'd rather be solo because they are afraid they'll be judged by others, so they keep it to themselves.  And really, a lot of people, as you say, are intent on maintaining relationships with others because they don't know how to maintain a relationship with themselves yet, so they depend on others.   I really don't care what others think, not said with sarcasm either, so I tell the truth about it.  Others are not living my Life, "I am."    So their blind judgement is no concern of mine.

If you will read my comment once more, you'll see that it says "it has been 'my' own experience with 'most' of the women I've known over the past 58 years.  I only speak from my own experiences.  Also, I'm not gay just for the record. Not that there's anything wrong with that. 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ild8w0rHQU ; Seinfeld moment!  lol..  "Not that there's anything wrong with that."


Happy Travels.
 
Corinne Wrote:Speaking of dating and relationships:

It has been my own experience, and also the "honest" experience of most of the women I've ever known over these past 58 years, that men don't want to be your friend unless sex is involved.  The minute they find out you are not interested in sex as a priority, but just a genuine friendship,( heaven forbid that should be so bad), it's goodbye.   That is WHY most women today prefer to go solo and enjoy their Lives just being themselves for a refreshing change.

I'm going to respectfully disagree. I'm feeling a little bad for you. I think you're missing out on some great friendships/platonic relationships.

Also, categorizing, stereotyping and generalities, with regards to humans, are never a good thing in my experience.

"The only place opportunity cannot be found is in a closed-minded person. "

Make no mistake. I am not proselytizing the need for a physical relationship with the opposite sex. I, for one, am a way better friend then I am a partner. 
Thanks for your reply cyndi.  I think you took what I shared down the wrong road, respectfully.  I have quite a few platonic relationships.  I Love people and enjoy being around them and sharing, always have.  Of course, you don't know me so you wouldn't know that.  Absolutely no offense intended towards you either. 

Once again, I'm only sharing my own experiences, I'm not stereotyping or generalizing, just sharing what I've experienced.  I am a happy and peaceful person, but you wouldn't know that because you don't know me, once again.    Just like I don't know you.  So, try not to read too much in to what I'm sharing.

I am a very open minded person, that is why I am exploring and meeting people of all walks of Life instead of staying put in one place behind closed walls.  I don't see how that can be classified as having a closed mind.  But then again, you don't know me, so you wouldn't know that but would only assume.  I've learned never to assume.  Not wise.

You are most certainly entitled to your own opinion as well as your own reality. Take care and happy traveling to you always. 

Corinne.
I am REALLY happy to know you're not limiting yourself, Corrine. Please accept my apology for misreading your statement.
No problem cyndi.  I've spent most of my Life removing limits.    I apologize for not being clear.  I thought I was.

My main point is that there is a certain kind of freedom, and liberation, that comes with not having to depend on something outside of yourself for your own happiness and well being.  Speaking for myself only because I can not speak for others and wouldn't even attempt to. 

Take care and 'nighty night.' 


I tend to agree with Cornine.  I am finding that platonic friendships are far more satsifying.  If something developes from the platonic friendship, great!  But its the friendship that deepens, grows, and endears one to another.  And, it seems that the chains of a relationship have expectations  that often cause wedges between two people.  Until we (I) learn to not develope expectations, going it alone works for me and from what other women have said, many (not necessarily all) also fall into this category.  So, Corinine is right on with her statements.

Rae

Quote:Seraphim, I couldn't find your post here, so I copied it from the email that I received saying that it came from this forum.


After re-reading your post I quickly deleted mine, because I realized  I had read too much into yours.

I can't disagree with things that happen 'in your experience', which is different from mine.

It's a pity, IMO, that you have that opinion of all men. There are men like tha,. and men who aren't. Stereotyping is never 100% accurate.  I can wish your experiences had been different.

Good morning Seraphim.   "No," I do not have that opinion of ALL men.  It has been my experience with 'most' men having worked with men all of my Life.

As I said before in another post, I've worked with men more than I have worked with women in my Lifetime.  I had a real blast working with men and learned a great deal from them and they treated me like family.  Please try to stop taking what I write out of context.    It would be greatly appreciated.  I mean no offense to you, or harm, by saying that to you either.

I never said that 'all' men are like that.  I said 'most...' - having worked with men my whole adult life back stage as a stage hand.  I've worked with men in banks, and out in the fields setting cabinets - carpenters, etc.  Their main goal is to 'bed' a woman, period.  That isn't generalizing, that's sharing what I've been told by the men I've met!  I know because they've told me!  I know because I have a brother. They would even invite me to go to the stripper clubs with them after work!  Of course I declined.    Having no interest in that area.  But I felt privileged, never the less, to receive the invitation because it let me know that they were comfortable working with me and treated me like one of the guys. 

I can say honestly that I have 'never' met a man, in all of my travels, who didn't have sex at the top of his priority list, "never."  That isn't a 'bash', that is a fact.  It would be a lot better if it was number 3 or 4 on the list.    Not saying they're not out there, I'm saying I've never met one! 

 I think you are assuming that I dislike all men, when I'm only sharing most of the experiences I've had with men over my Lifetime.   I'm sharing "Objectively."  Meaning, I don't share to degrade anyone in any way shape or form.

Take care! 
Your personal perspective was well said yesican.  ♥
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