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So is this something to be worried about if one had plans to boondock on BLM land? They haven't done anything with it yet but it looks like they may be considering privatizing 640 million acres of BLM land. I am having a hard time conceptualizing that amount of land and can't figure out if this could mean trouble for my future boondocking plans. Any thoughts?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...eral-lease
Hard to comment about this without getting political but " I don'tsk likesk the smells of it....skheeeeeewwww."
Without the staff to manage lands it is pretty much still the wild west out here people pretty much do what they can get away with as far as land usage. Even with small staff look at the event that took place in Blanding Utah when government tried to close some ATV trails. Bears Ears National Monument won't be much of a monument with a ranger's nearest back up 100 miles away and a mob of 150 armed ATV riders like at Blanding. People forget laws without enforcement and people who get along with enforcement officers get away with alot.
(01-19-2017, 04:40 PM)slynne Wrote: [ -> ]So is this something to be worried about if one had plans to boondock on BLM land? They haven't done anything with it yet but it looks like they may be considering privatizing 640 million acres of BLM land. I am having a hard time conceptualizing that amount of land and can't figure out if this could mean trouble for my future boondocking plans. Any thoughts?

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/...eral-lease

States would just close off the lands and sell many of them. They don't have the funds to manage them. It's not as if these lands aren't being used already for mining, grazing and logging. I doubt that many people other than loggers want to open the forest to widespread clear cutting with the ugliness and environmental degredation that causes.

It sounds like many states officials don't want this.
So, what is this community going to do? No land to stay on, probably no more medicare and social security soon. The RV industry might go broke too.
It seems to me I  have been hearing about something like this since I was old enough to understand the talk radio my father had on 24/7.  (Almost 60 years)  

I would not trust 10% of what I read online, and only slightly more that I hear from the politicians in person. That source is slightly  Rolleyes slanted to alarmist propaganda.

What are they going to do, roll up the roads? The people will not stand for sale of trust resources.
They'll keep the roads but the land between will be private. They have been trying to take over since the 30's, true. Now they got total control for the first time since. The people will stand for all kinds of shit, obviously. In fact they'll support it.

sounds like the age old taking it for granted thing.

p.s. what's it being "online" make any difference to anything? It digital news print, same as it ever was but on your screen.
Bardo, you must be young to ask that question.

The news industry used to have "Gatekeepers" that forced honesty in the media. If a reporter could not remain unbiased, out the door.  There were propaganda outlets, but no where near this many slanted sources.  Digital media has removed the personalization of the reporter.
I think The Guardian is a reputable news organization, although obviously one with a UK bias.

I don't mean this to be political but rather am curious about what percentage of the land 640m acres represents. Is it all of it? A small part of it. I really have no idea how much land that is. I am wondering if it enough land to have an impact on RVers and boondocking. I mean, I know that around here, there isn't much free camping because there isn't too much federal land but up north, where there is, there are places with federal public land is available and it is nice.

(Ok, I looked it up. BLM manages about 700m acres so this is actually almost all of it)

Just to be clear too. This hasn't happened. It may not happen. And I respect that we can't have a conversation about if it should happen without getting political so perhaps focus on what to do IF it happens. I guess I will try to come up with a plan B that doesnt involve camping for free on BLM land. Maybe I will figure a way to stay on private land for cheap. Maybe if they give this to state governments, it will still be available? I suppose a group could get together and form a 501©(3) to buy a lot of the land and if the mission of the group was to provide free recreation, it could be a solution? I don't know.

I know I am obnoxious in the way I like to think ahead so far. It is an anxiety disorder. I worry.
(01-19-2017, 08:06 PM)GotSmart Wrote: [ -> ]Bardo, you must be young to ask that question.

The news industry used to have "Gatekeepers" that forced honesty in the media. If a reporter could not remain unbiased, out the door.  There were propaganda outlets, but no where near this many slanted sources.  Digital media has removed the personalization of the reporter.

Ok...So read their printed article.

Otherwise I'm having trouble descrambling your various statements point.

You don't believe anything online, or you don't believe anything because of the internet?
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