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(02-03-2017, 01:50 PM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: [ -> ]Massachusetts is implementing the pay by plate system and will mail you a ticket if you don't have the EZ pass,  there was an article in the paper when the first toll booth switched over to this system,  people were being fined in the thousands of dollars for late payments on $3 fines.  Wish people would protest this kind of stuff instead of what's all over the news now.

Maybe it will just be simplest to have an EZ pass on your vehicle.  That way you'll never hear from them.
I would suspect most couldn't disappear simply because they wouldn't know how to get by without a cellphone, credit cards, computer, etc. Frankly, the best way for those who need to disappear is to buy someone else's information and SS#  online and just start using it. The system is so slow and half of those working in the system hardly do their job that it takes a full 3 years before they catch on. Switch identity every 2 years and they'll never catch up.

I personally know this because my employer put a SS# that had the wrong last digit into the system. Because my sister and I got our SS#at the same time it just so happened that the wrong SS# my employer put in was hers instead of mine. So 3 years later she gets a letter from the IRS about not claiming income. It was reported to the police who said they would investigate it and call my employer. Never called...ever. Didn't do their job and probably didn't care a whit. Eventually I figured it all out when I went online one day and noticed my income wasn't showing. Within 2 days I had it all figured out and the police and federal government were clueless. YUP! Just snag a SS# and run with it and they'll never catch up. I suspect you could just make up any number that comes to you and use it. The fact that I was male instead of female, that I was older, and that the names couldn't have been more different raised no flags whatsoever. Oh and my father was an IRS agent for over 30 years and I know how their system works and it works at a glacial pace.
Do the reader work with out of state plates? Say the toll is in CA and my address is in MT. I thought each state DMV was separate.
(02-03-2017, 10:45 AM)GotSmart Wrote: [ -> ]Just dont be a problem
i will classify this in the "do as i say not as i do" section Smile
(02-03-2017, 02:08 PM)sephiro499 Wrote: [ -> ]Do the reader work with out of state plates?  Say the toll is in CA and my address is in MT.  I thought each state DMV was separate.

Don't really know how much info the different DMVs share, but I will note that in the case of the NY bridges referred to in the article, probably way more than half the cars crossing those bridges have Jersey plates, so clearly they couldn't be doing this if there wasn't some sharing going on.

Also, see post # 14.
(02-03-2017, 01:50 PM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: [ -> ]Mass also said they drafted laws to make it illegal to use the automated plate readers for anything other than amber alerts when a child goes missing.  Hoewever, I'm sure they use it for other means and just don't announce it as the way they made the big drug bust or what have you.  That was "the random pull over" I keep reading more and more about.

Whether or not MA is obeying their own laws, I'm quite sure that Homeland Security and the FBI have access and don't care what the state law says.
(02-03-2017, 01:50 PM)Every Road Leads Home Wrote: [ -> ]Massachusetts is implementing the pay by plate system and will mail you a ticket if you don't have the EZ pass,  there was an article in the paper when the first toll booth switched over to this system,  people were being fined in the thousands of dollars for late payments on $3 fines.  Wish people would protest this kind of stuff instead of what's all over the news now.
Interesting subject. Does anybody know how many States, or municipalities have these toll roads? Does one EZ pass cover all of them, or do you have to buy a separate one for every toll road? How much do they cost?
And while on this subject, I found this article very interesting.
Driver Licensing vs Right to Free Travel
(02-03-2017, 03:37 PM)Ballenxj Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting subject. Does anybody know how many States, or municipalities have these toll roads? Does one EZ pass cover all of them, or do you have to buy a separate one for every toll road? How much do they cost?

The Wikipedia article shows that it is used extensively from New England to as far west as IL and as far south as NC.

It also mentions that the Feds are pushing for one toll system for ALL federal highways nationwide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-ZPass
(02-03-2017, 03:37 PM)Ballenxj Wrote: [ -> ]Interesting subject. Does anybody know how many States, or municipalities have these toll roads? Does one EZ pass cover all of them, or do you have to buy a separate one for every toll road? How much do they cost?
And while on this subject, I found this article very interesting.
[/url][url=http://www.lawfulpath.com/ref/DLbrief.shtml]Driver Licensing vs Right to Free Travel

Not sure about all states; but know that at least some states have a reciprocity agreement for ez pass holders from other states ...
Didn't read thru this all, a few of the responses just made me sad. Each and everyone of you break the law multiple times in a day. You can pretend all you want that you're not a "criminal" and have nothing to worry about. Whatever gets you to sleep at night.

There was an act of congress signed into law in Oct 26, 2001. Wont name it because I am afraid of getting political. This wasn't the start of such actions, but that specific one was a freedom buster.

I was given my life and my rights by an authority that dwarfs any on earth. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely.

In conclusion...lol. Love ya all!
I'll keep this short and end with this quote...

"First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me." ~Niemöller
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