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(09-01-2018, 02:41 PM)QinReno Wrote: [ -> ]Ding, you might be interested in watching "10 Cloverfield Lane" (2016) the movie. Almost exactly congruent with your dream. Amazingly, the only radio channel that was working had Rob on it, can you believe. (oops, gave away the surprise ending, JK).

Also, Cloverfield (2008), earlier in the same genre. Nice dystopic, end-of-the-world stuff - if you're game. You can watch clips from both on youtube.

I've seen both.  Liked them!
(09-01-2018, 02:18 PM)LivGolden Wrote: [ -> ]Confused  Undecided Sad  Huh

A variation on Man Proposes, God Disposes.  It was a commentary on the idea of truly "opting out" given in a previous post and how truly independent of the world we can ever really be.  In the dream, I and the others thought we finally had it licked.  We were going to be safe. The only thing we didn't take into account was that it wasn't just us who existed, fixated on our plots and needs, but the rest of the world as well.  That the rest of the world intruded in the form of a giant grizzly bear to put the kibosh on everything was the luck of the draw.  But I think the dream was really about the principle, about the comeuppance you set yourself up for with hubris.

I'm definitely one of those who wants to be independent, but do it with quality broadband and virtually everything I ever use, eat, drink, drive, or wear built, maintained, and probably repaired or replaced eventually by somebody else despite my small personal efforts.  Even a complete hermit has to depend on the rest of the world, if only to leave him alone.  Even those fleeing society are held together almost entirely by it.
(09-01-2018, 05:38 PM)Dingfelder Wrote: [ -> ] I and the others thought we finally had it licked.  We were going to be safe. The only thing we didn't take into account was that it wasn't just us who existed, fixated on our plots and needs, but the rest of the world as well. 
But Mousie, thou art no thy-lane, 
In proving foresight may be vain: 
The best laid schemes o’ Mice an’ Men 
          Gang aft agley, 
An’ lea’e us nought but grief an’ pain, 
          For promis’d joy! 
I never knew the source for that was not Steinbeck until now, thanks.

Most of life's important lessons look to be shared amongst the whole species through time, though with every life they feel freshly discovered.
(09-01-2018, 06:27 PM)Dingfelder Wrote: [ -> ]I never knew the source for that was not Steinbeck until now, thanks.

Most of life's important lessons look to be shared amongst the whole species through time, though with every life they feel freshly discovered.
Poor little mousies live in their nice little comfy dens, and then one day the Great Plow in the Sky comes and digs up their field, LOL.

Speaking of Steinbeck, couple of days ago I noticed a thread that cyndi had written. Turns out some guy researched JS's book "Travels With Charley" which I had read years ago, and discovered that much of it was just made-up stories. So, the First Great-RVer turns out to be at least a partial fraud. Oh well, we still have Hemingway.
He was all about fiction after all.
(09-01-2018, 06:42 PM)QinReno Wrote: [ -> ]Poor little mousies live in their nice little comfy dens, and then one day the Great Plow in the Sky comes and digs up their field, LOL.

Speaking of Steinbeck, couple of days ago I noticed a thread that cyndi had written. Turns out some guy researched JS's book "Travels With Charley" which I had read years ago, and discovered that much of it was just made-up stories. So, the First Great-RVer turns out to be at least a partial fraud. Oh well, we still have Hemingway.

Oh well, people have said the same about innumerable authors.  Thoreau has been criticized for not being truly legit about taking on the forest.  Few idols aren't made of glass.  

Stephen King, is among the many who have warned, to paraphrase, "Don't meet your idols."
(09-01-2018, 06:56 PM)John61CT Wrote: [ -> ]He was all about fiction after all.
I think I would have said: "He was all about good stories after all". I just checked on whether JS had ever written any non-fiction. Seems he did, although maybe it was ALL made-up too, LOL. Easier to sit at home and imagine than to go on the road and experience. 
https://www.shmoop.com/john-steinbeck/nonfiction.html

At least we know that Hemingway did experience the Spanish Civil War, WW1, did ride into Paris with some of the first army guys when there were still german snipers on the rooftops, did have TWO airplane crashes in Africa, and did go to China. He is shown grinning in a lot of pictures. 
http://time.com/3961119/birthday-ernest-...ory-death/
http://www.thatsmags.com/shanghai/post/1...sits-china

Hmmm, I wonder if Rob has ever been in a real RV.
I enjoyed your analogy. You have left the Cave, Dingfelder.
Wonderful translation of the King Arthur legends by Thomas Malory. Died before complete.
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