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RE: Good morning - crofter - 05-15-2020

This article might help sort out what is open in Washington. Most parks are day use only. Phase 2 may open on June 1.
-crofter

Description: newspaper article about Washington opening in phases.

https://www.seattlepi.com/coronavirus/article/phase-one-reopen-washington-state-parks-covid-19-15243948.php

Description: article lists dispersed camping open in Methow area
https://methowvalleynews.com/2020/04/01/outside-is-off-limits/


RE: Good morning - jacqueg - 05-15-2020

(05-14-2020, 08:54 PM)maki2 Wrote:  The dispersed camping closures are on Governor Inslee's official WA state Covid 19 website.   Go look at it, he created the official order for it in March when he created the Stay at Home orders. He knew that just closing state campgrounds would not be sufficient to contain the virus. So the federal agencies cooperated in this matter.

Yes, I read Inslee's order. ALL the specific sites mentioned are state land. There is NOT ONE WORD about federal lands in the entire release.

Yes, federal land managers do and are coordinating with local officials. For instance, we know that the BLM's popular Alabama Hills recreation area in California is closed to dispersed camping, in part because of the local community's concern about the limited capacity of their hospital. And if you go to the BLM website for the area, you will see exactly that. https://www.blm.gov/visit/alabama-hills

Closing all federal lands to dispersed camping is a very big deal, it would affect tens (hundreds?) of thousands of people, both local residents and travelers, as well as the businesses who rely on cash infusions from those travelers. So it is very odd indeed that even on the federal websites, there is no mention of such a blanket closure. Even in Utah, one of the states most stringent about covid19, there are people right now camping on federal lands.

I note that a well-known YouTuber and nomad, who could be expected to know better, accompanied his report on Oregon's closure of ODF lands to camping with a photo of a USFS campground sign. I am unclear as to why people don't understand that PNW forestlands and rangelands are owned/managed by quite a few different entities, including private corporations and counties. But unless I hear it from BLM and USFS, the folks who actually manage most of the forest and rangelands in the PNW, that they are closing USFS and BLM lands to dispersed camping, I will continue to question anyone who says there is a blanket closure.


RE: Good morning - crofter - 05-15-2020

(05-15-2020, 02:36 AM)jacqueg Wrote:  ....But unless I hear it from BLM and USFS, the folks who actually manage most of the forest and rangelands in the PNW, that they are closing USFS and BLM lands to dispersed camping, I will continue to question anyone who says there is a blanket closure.
Here is the contact info for BLM OR/ WA. They want you to check with the local BLM office before going there. They say they are answering the phone, but offices are closed.
-crofter

Description: link to BLM OR/ WA site
https://www.blm.gov/oregon-washington/covid-access-restrictions

503-808- 6001


RE: Good morning - maki2 - 05-15-2020

You can't trust a 3 day forecast, they were predicting nice weather for this weekend. But it looks like I will be dodging rain showers instead. Maybe I can get the work under the trailer finished up despite having to crawl around on wet pavement. I want to get the trailer off the ramps so that it is lower down for working on preparing the roof for solar.

Almost time to start thinking about designs for tilting the panel up. Fortunately I have an in-house product designer to consult with although I don't always get as much help as I would like to have. He is pretty busy at present designing new products for a couple of customers which is a good thing. Better a feast of work than a famine. Of course he always has projects of his own going that he wants to get to.


RE: Good morning - jacqueg - 05-15-2020

(05-15-2020, 11:14 AM)crofter Wrote:  Here is the contact info for BLM OR/ WA. They want you to check with the local BLM office before going there. They say they are answering the phone, but offices are closed.
-crofter

Description: link to BLM OR/ WA site
https://www.blm.gov/oregon-washington/covid-access-restrictions

503-808- 6001

That's the site I've been citing for the past three days...

I do believe I know what's on it by now.


RE: Good morning - travelaround - 05-15-2020

Good morning! I'm just sitting around... I posted a video on my Booktube channel and am watching other Booktube channel videos now. It is a large community of people who post videos on YouTube about books and reading. Great fun. (If you like books.)

I always give Amazon my street address but more and more lately they've been transferring my packages to the Post Office which has no street delivery in this very remote, rural mountain community. Therefore I'm forced to go to town to pick up the packages. That's kind of inconvenient when you're trying to "stay-at-home" ... so that's on my agenda today. I have three packages to pick up there today. I'd much rather have the packages delivered by UPS or FedEx... they bring them into the yard and leave them on my back porch!


RE: Good morning - crofter - 05-15-2020

Good morning from southern Arizona where it is cooler, 92 degrees so far today and 70's at night for good sleeping temp in the van. I am getting by with covered parking and a fan at night for cooling.

Taking a break and heading for the pool for a workout. It is a community pool with very few ppl here, but they are supplying us with cleaning sprays and cleaning rags. You can't just jump in there anymore. Just like gym apparatus, you have to clean before and after.

On the bright side, they have given us back our showers. Yay, a pristine shower to use. More cleaning products in there, can't just jump in the shower either.

Sent an email to BLM OR/ WA to find out about dispersed camping there. Memorial Day in eastern Washington is kind of a thing. Just call me travel agent.
-crofter


RE: Good morning - maki2 - 05-17-2020

Woke to rain but now the storm is just about passed over. By lunch time I can get back to work on finishing the work under the trailer. But I will have to dry off more of the padded floor mats and find some flattened cardboard boxes to lie down on as the pavement won't be dry. Supposedly two more days without rain to come. I had better take advantage of that. I need the emotional boost of getting at least a few task crossed off my to-do list.


RE: Good morning - maki2 - 05-17-2020

(05-15-2020, 02:24 PM)crofter Wrote:  sent an email to BLM OR/ WA to find out about dispersed camping there. Memorial Day in eastern Washington is kind of a thing. Just call me travel agent.
-crofter
What might be of use to you if they don't reply to your email is to find out about the road closures on the NFS lands. If you can't get in by road then of course you can't get to the dispersed camp sites. BLM is not the only type of Federal Land in WA state where there is dispersed camping.  Not all road closures are related to Covid 19 issues, some of them are due to the road condition or situations such as rehabilitation of the forest areas due to things such as overuse, flooding, logging in progress, fires, etc.

Here is a link showing the NFS Washington state districts in Eastern WA with links to more information about road closures.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/okawen/recarea/?recid=57117


RE: Good morning - crofter - 05-17-2020

(05-17-2020, 10:25 AM)maki2 Wrote:  ....Here is a link showing the NFS Washington state districts in Eastern WA with links to more information about road closures.
https://www.fs.usda.gov/recarea/okawen/recarea/?recid=57117
Thanks for the link, maki !

BLM responded to the email inquiry with some links, subject to change. Posted it all on the "boondocking or driving blind" thread. Travel at your own risk.
-crofter

Description: Here is the link to that thread on here. So far the thread discussion is about boondocking in AZ, NV, OR, WA mostly.
https://www.cheaprvliving.com/forums/showthread.php?tid=40132&pid=493439#pid493439