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RE: Good morning - bonvanroulez - 06-10-2020

Looking at the literature for that Dometic 711 toilet, it's a marine toilet designed to be permanently installed on boats with a discharge hose and deck fitting to connect to dockside pumpout stations. It also needs a connection to a pressurized water system.


RE: Good morning - bonvanroulez - 06-10-2020

In the La Posa LTVAs outside Quartzsite there are plenty of toilets to allow any rig that is not self-contained to find a place to camp as near or as far from neighbors as desired. By actual count I think there are 12-13 toilets total in the 4 different areas. The most remote ones in La Posa North are about 3 and 4 miles in from the entrance station and have beautiful and remote spots to camp within the roughly 500 foot required. There also seems to be a lot of flexibility on the 500 foot rule with many campers more like 1000 feet away.

Imperial Dam LTVA is a little different in that the toilets are close to the entry station as well as one in the "Pit" area, so the areas around those toilets tend to be pretty busy. There would seem to be more enforcement of the self-contained rule in the outlying areas because you only see bigger self-contained rigs in those areas, while the camper vans, tenters, and small trailers stay close to the toilets. Imperial Dam also has those big-rig campers that set up close to the toilets to the great annoyance of tent and small rig campers that have to be there.

There is no "BLM Inspector", just rangers and BLM employees that have a good idea what belongs where and will issue warnings if you're somewhere you don't belong.

The situation at the other LTVAs is different. At Hot Springs, Pilot Knob, Midland there are no toilets in the campground and only self-contained rigs may stay there. At those LTVAs there are full-time hosts that have full discretion and the last word as to the rigs that camp there, and as I have witnessed they will turn people away or ask them to leave after they've set up camp, because they weren't in a real self-contained rig per the BLM rules, including vans and small trailers like Scamps without holding tanks. At Hot Springs and Pilot Knob there are 14 day areas nearby for van campers, tents, and small trailers.


RE: Good morning - Qxxx - 06-10-2020

(06-10-2020, 01:13 PM)bonvanroulez Wrote:  In the La Posa LTVAs outside Quartzsite there are plenty of toilets to allow any rig that is not self-contained to find a place to camp as near or as far from neighbors as desired. By actual count I think there are 12-13 toilets total in the 4 different areas.
From my experience over the past 3 winters, I wouldn't quite phrase it that way. At South, the areas around toilets were always mobbed by big rigs as well as a lot of tents. At West, I don't believe there are any toilets, and at North I think they just put those in and I didn't get to drive in there. That sounds like the best bet for isolation.

2 winters ago, I drove into Imperial dam, and I agree, as there was no place near the 2 toilets that I could even wedge my van into, the big rigs were so tightly packed. And just half mile back, there was no one, but too far from the toilets.

This winter I did drive all the way into Wiley's Well LTVA, and immediately turned around and drove back out. It was pure dust in there, and the road was very iffy. It was graded, but was mostly dug 3-4' below the level of the surrounding sand, and there was a long stretch where it went through a deep wash. The wash was graded but might be nasty if it rained a lot. As a chicken in a van that's been stuck 3 times in deep sand, I didn't stay.


RE: Good morning - bonvanroulez - 06-10-2020

It sounds like you haven't really gotten out of South which is by far the busiest and most crowded of the LTVA areas. The toilets on the west side of the highway are nearest Old Yuma Road between West and going into Tyson. There are 3-4 toilets over there and those areas don't get very populated.

At North there is a big one by the entry station, then continue east for 3/4 mile to a junction of a long road that runs NW to SE. Turn left onto that long road and there is a toilet in about 1/4 mile. Turn right and there is another at about 1/4 mile,another at about 1 mile from the turn, another mile to the next one, and another mile to the last one, so 4-5 miles from the entry off the highway. Several of those toilets are brand new. The LTVA boundary is another mile or so beyond that then the road continues to the mountains.

All of those areas stay really uncrowded, especially the ones furthest down the road. It would be hard to get much more remote, although I know some great secret spots in the LTVA. 

Of course South is the busiest because it is the location of the water and dump. But they are in the process of developing an entirely new service area in the back of Tyson off Old Yuma Road. They are drilling the well now and when completed a ranger told me it would have 6-8 dump stations compared to the 2 at the present location, along with new water fill stations.


RE: Good morning - Qxxx - 06-10-2020

(06-10-2020, 04:05 PM)bonvanroulez Wrote:  It sounds like you haven't really gotten out of South 
All the talk about South was rhetorical. 

This winter, I actually stayed for a month in La Posa Tyson Wash, in the area with the single toilet, and that's where I had the trouble with the 2 Class-A hogs. And basically the whole rest of that area was filled with big rigs, spread out "just so" in a manner such that there wasn't really adequate spaces in between for "courteous" flopping at a "nice" campsite. Also, I didn't know then about all the toilets towards the back of North, so thanks for the rundown.


RE: Good morning - bonvanroulez - 06-10-2020

Here's a map showing the 3 facilities in the back of Tyson. I thought they added a 4th back there but might be mistaken. The scale of the map is deceiving as those 3 toilets are a good distance apart.

I put in the red arrow; that's the location they are drilling the well for new dump facilities.

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RE: Good morning - bonvanroulez - 06-10-2020

And from the same crappy old map, the facilities at La Posa North. The ones at the entry aren't shown. I added the 2 red Xes at the location of the brand new facilities. For scale, the toilets down the road are each spaced just about exactly one mile apart.

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RE: Good morning - Qxxx - 06-10-2020

(06-10-2020, 06:03 PM)bonvanroulez Wrote:  I put in the red arrow; that's the location they are drilling the well for new dump facilities.
That's a good place to put the dump, as there's not much space right at that spot for camping, as Old Yuma Rd is quite near Tyson Wash.


RE: Good morning - Qxxx - 06-10-2020

(06-10-2020, 06:20 PM)bonvanroulez Wrote:  And from the same crappy old map, the facilities at La Posa North. The ones at the entry aren't shown. I added the 2 red Xes at the location of the brand new facilities. For scale, the toilets down the road are each spaced just about exactly one mile apart.
Looks good, easy to find.


RE: Good morning - travelaround - 06-11-2020

@Maki - are you doing okay with all the unrest in your city? Hope it is still far from your home and places you normally go to.

@everyone - Good morning. I need to get yard work done today. Expecting 70 degrees today and rain tomorrow.