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RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - tx2sturgis - 08-18-2019

Something you might consider is paying a bit more to buy a 'certified' used at a dealership. You will get some kind of warranty. You wont have to deal with random sellers....but...salesmen can also bring some challenges.

Another option is to get a carfax report on the cars you focus on...One report for $39 or six reports for $99....you will need the VIN numbers to run the reports.

Keep in mind also that for any of these cars of that age and mileage, repairs are inevitable. If you buy a $4000 car that pukes its transmission after 2 weeks, you might be out another 3 grand getting that 'bargain' ready to roll. Not fun at all.

And before you hand over any money to an individual seller, be sure to INSIST on a mechanic at least looking over the vehicle, and be 100% sure of the clear and clean title. You need to SEE it and preferably have them sign it over to you in the presence of a bank or notary. 

If your budget allows, look for newer vehicles since you don't have any mechanical knowledge and would be at a big disadvantage if something major breaks. There are no guarantees, but at least you can try to stack the deck in your favor with a newer vehicle.


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - CityWoman - 08-18-2019

(08-18-2019, 06:27 PM)tx2sturgis Wrote:  Something you might consider is paying a bit more to buy a 'certified' used at a dealership. You will get some kind of warranty. You wont have to deal with random sellers....but...salesmen can also bring some challenges.

I'll look into that.

Quote:If your budget allows, look for newer vehicles since you don't have any mechanical knowledge . . .

How new???


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - tx2sturgis - 08-18-2019

If you have the budget, (cash or credit) I would recommend (in your situation) a nice SUV or minivan at no more than about 6 years old or 75,000 miles...very rough numbers here.

Mechanical aptitude (or a strict budget and lots of time) means you can keep looking for that bargain, or the fixer-upper that you can buy cheap and spend some time and money fixing it up if needed.

But for someone in your situation, I would say it might be money well-spent to buy as new as you can comfortably afford. I mean, don't spend EVERYTHING...but buying newer, especially with some kind of drivetrain warranty, might help you save money in the long run.

Often, especially in your part of the country, cars that see a LOT of urban driving and have 120,000 miles on them have seen a LOT of stop and go driving, snow and ice, maybe have rust issues, etc.

Conversely, out here in the sticks and the flats, its not unusual to see a rust-free specimen with 200,000 highway miles that is still in good shape.

Just my 2 cents and others may disagree. But its the way I see it, given your situation.


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - tx2sturgis - 08-18-2019

You might want to PRACTICE buying cars. Let's say you want to practice on this 2017 Ford Escape, and let's suppose you can afford 11 thousand. This car is listed at 13-7.

https://newjersey.craigslist.org/ctd/d/jersey-city-2017-ford-escape-se-fwd/6957178794.html

You're not in love with it, the color is too dark or whatever, but you want to check it out.

You ring the dealer...Joe answers and yes..he still has it. You take the subway and maybe an Uber ride to the dealer. Or better yet, a trusted friend drives you to the dealer. You walk in, ask for Joe, tell him you want to look but you are also looking at other cars. He takes you to it, shows you a few features, offers to let you drive it. The salesman will probably need to ride with you. 

You drive it around the neighborhood, you like it. But dont ACT like you like it. 

You get back to the dealer after a 20 minute drive. You tell him that you might be interested, but will not be buying it at 13-7...no way...you just really dont like dark blue. You will probably have his full attention now.

He takes you inside and asks questions about your credit, the payments you can afford, etc. Take charge. Its YOUR money we are talking about. Tell him that the car will be on your shortlist if they can sell it to you for 11-5. No fees. No add-ons. And you want a warranty, in writing. (X number of miles or whatever).

He comes back and says no way...the lowest he can go is 13. You stand up, thank him for his time, offer to shake his hand, and begin walking out the door.

One of two things will happen:

He will let you walk.

OR more likely he will say something like, what if we came down to 12-5. Plus tax.

YOU are in control. Never forget that.

Smile, then offer him your phone number and tell him you will be buying a car in the next week....and it might be this car IF they can make a much better offer. Suppose he DOES meet your price. You STILL have the option to walk if the car is just too expensive for you right now.

Either way, you have now done the 'dance' so you can be more confident for each subsequent negotiation.

It takes a bit of practice to work up some confidence. But you can do it.


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - tx2sturgis - 08-18-2019

Or another one in that price range:


https://newjersey.craigslist.org/ctd/d/moonachie-2013-honda-cr-call/6955101266.html


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - CityWoman - 08-19-2019

Hmm... after doing a little searching, looks like CPO cars are a bit beyond the realm of possibilities for me, price-wise.  

But millions of people buy used cars every day - why should it be problematic for me?  I wish I had somebody who knows this stuff to go with me.  I'm trying to get in touch with possible mechanics but it'd be nice to have someone with me whom I don't have to pay.

Ugh, what a quandary.


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - highdesertranger - 08-19-2019

what are CPO cars?

on that previous list,

that Astro Van is beat up stay away. there is body damage on the left rear corner panel. also the plastic around the dash is not fitting right.

not much info on That Trail Blazer

not much info on that Envoy. me personally I don't like AWD(All Wheel Drive)

I am also not a Subaru fan. I don't get the cult like following. just another throw away car IMO.

not much info on that Honda. Note AWD is not 4WD(four wheel drive)

that 2nd Trail Blazer is cheap but has a lot of miles and is showing wear. you can see the wear in the steering wheel and seats. also I don't care for those funny camera angles that make the front end appear to be lower than the rear either something is up or they are trying to hide something.

some general things to consider.

the more doo dads a vehicle has the more there is to go wrong with it. for this reason I don't care for the push button 4WD or automatic AWD

when you test drive you must check everything, every doo dad. you must check the 4WD and you can not check 4WD on pavement you must be on dirt.

don't get a false sense of security from a "Clean Car Fax Report". Car Fax is only a guideline very few shops report to Car Fax and there is a bit of incentive to take a vehicle to a shop that doesn't report to Car Fax, for a major repair. a vehicle could have been totaled in a wreck and still have a clean Car Fax. Used car Dealers almost never report to Car Fax.

sure does seem a lot of people in your area don't give much info with there ads. ads with little info makes me leery.

highdesertranger


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - CityWoman - 08-19-2019

(08-19-2019, 07:26 AM)highdesertranger Wrote:  what are CPO cars?
CPO = Certified Pre-Owned. That's what tx2sturgis suggested I look for.

Quote:sure does seem a lot of people in your area don't give much info with there ads.  ads with little info makes me leery.

highdesertranger
Yes, I find that very frustrating.

Did you see my post after that one, with the Toyota Highlander?


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - CityWoman - 08-19-2019

When you go to buy a car from a private seller, how is it possible to buy insurance before driving it home?  Are private sellers usually willing to wait for someone to look at a car and then come back to have a mechanic look at it, pay for it, and already have insurance?

I am also reading up on what I need to do in order to buy a car out of state.


RE: I know zilch zip zero about cars! - highdesertranger - 08-19-2019

the Highlander looks to have damage at both corners of the rear bumper. lots of wear on the steering wheel. I wonder why all the front end work, not enough miles for that IMO something's up. I wonder what a "new power steering pipe is". highdesertranger