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Does camping harm the planet? - crofter - 05-23-2020

Wow these people think camping causes irreparable harm to the planet. Like the world is  a museum in a glass case, not a living organism.

Some people think that living in harmony with nature, and being in nature is a healing of both people and the planet. Which is true, or is ithe truth something else?

-crofter

Description: article about effects of unregulated campers.

https://www.popsci.com/national-park-recovery-soil/


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - Firebuild - 05-23-2020

I take this article to mean camping, off-roading, etc., in areas not designated for that, taking advantage of the lack of staff to use land set aside for other reasons for recreational purposes. I'd venture to say that what they describe is a real problem, but it does't have anything to do with the legitimate use of areas where dispersed camping is allowed. That doesn't mean, of course, that fingers will not get pointed in the wrong direction.


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - crofter - 05-23-2020

I voted for the healing and harmony answers. 

People do everything in parks that they do everywhere else on the planet. The experience of being in nature is healing for people, and because nature is a living organism, has the power of regenerative healing of the natural system also.
-crofter


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - crofter - 05-23-2020

(05-23-2020, 12:31 AM)Firebuild Wrote:  I take this article to mean camping, off-roading, etc., in areas not designated for that, taking advantage of the lack of staff to use land set aside for other reasons for recreational purposes. I'd venture to say that what they describe is a real problem, but it does't have anything to do with the legitimate use of areas where dispersed camping is allowed. That doesn't mean, of course, that fingers will not get pointed in the wrong direction.
But right or wrong, do you think nature can't recover from camping?
-crofter


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - eDJ_ - 05-23-2020

I voted something else. 

I think the greatest impact is the number of people populating the planet.   We have nearly 10 billion population on earth now.

When more and more of these people go "camping"  and have little training or regard for the impact they are having
on the environment,  it leaves a lasting mark.  Sure nature will slowly recover but it is like a repetitive stress injury that will
take much longer to overcome. 

Industries that make RV's in any form are only concerned with sales and investors.  Their last concern seems to be is for the
environments that people will "camp" in.  (but listen to them bellyache about "tree huggers" and the *%^*^% Guvermint when standards or limits 
are imposed on their industry......bubbut....we're ringing our cash registers here and getting really rich.....what those lousy people do with the stuff
we sell isn't our problem.  But do any of them offer a DVD with each new unit they sell that teaches the buyer good stewardship of the environment ?
(even though it could lead to the long term health & welfare of their industry)


Speaking for myself,  I would rather rough camp in my home built rig and leave the site in such condition that you wouldn't know I had been there.
This means I carry gear along for all of my needs,   so that I don't have to take a hand axe and go chopping & cutting poles
for my awnings,  tent pegs for guy lines, and the like that would impact where I stayed.

Check out this Youtube video regarding water which most of us think we have so much of.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aaprdHfi...BjLDW5EcZU


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - nature lover - 05-23-2020

I checked both - Camping causes irreparable harm and Nature is healing - both seem true to a certain extent.

That fact is the life causes irreparable harm to the planet. "Our mission should we choose to accept it" is to make every effort to do as little harm as we can. In sticks and bricks or in a home with wheels. Even we proud nomads could do much more. The harm we do to the planet is not just what the eye can see when we move from one campsite to another. We run our gas engines to travel from camp to camp. We try to create as little trash as possible but we each create some. We leave behind our human waste (being actively discussed on another thread) The equipment, including vehicles, we use is made in factories that pollute a lot or at least a little. Even the clothes on our backs are made in factories. I for one love the gift God has given us in the planet but I am not willing to walk naked from place to place never buying anything or using anything that is not renewable, no cell phone or towers, no computer, no roads... I choose to be aware of the effect my life has on the earth and pray for the wisdom to limit my part of the damage to a minimum. Not much more that we can do than that; except to encourage others to be aware and do the same.

OK - I'm done preaching.


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - Spaceman Spiff - 05-23-2020

- Other -

The problem is that so many of our population has been divorced from nature so they don't have any idea of the damage they do.

This is a result of high population densities where people have a very distorted view of nature. At the same time have a primal need to 'get back to nature'.

Add to this the 'if it feels good, do it' mentality people don't care about the damage they leave in their wake.


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - WanderingRose - 05-23-2020

I voted with healing and harmony, too.

Tho I believe most things can be turned harmful, depending on our individual choices.

Be considerate of those around you and those who will come after you.

Leave no trace and if possible leave every site better than you found it.


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - Trebor English - 05-23-2020

A landfill accumulates trash in one location.  Spreading the trash thinly over a large area makes a large area messed up.  Concentrating the trash makes the larger area nicer.  When you "pack it out" you make the large area nicer. 

When you go to the landfill it's a mess.  It is a very dirty place.  Nobody talks about cleaning it up.  As nasty as the landfill is it allows the large area to be nice.

Cities like Miami, LA, and Manhattan are like a landfill.  The population is concentrated.  People are piled up in high rise buildings.  Having the people concentrated allows the large area to be nice. 

The people who escape from the big city contribute to the large area becoming populated.  The large area becomes less nice.  

The difference is that people benefit from being out of the big city while trash gets no benefit from being spread around.  Some people need to be concentrated while others need to be in the large area, camping.  The benefit will have a cost.  Each of us is responsible for reducing the cost that we bring.


RE: Does camping harm the planet? - jacqueg - 05-23-2020

I didn't vote, because I agree with all of them to a certain extent.

If you've done a lot of camping, you know that people use the outdoors in all kinds of ways.

For instance, the folks who are out here today racing their dirt bikes and ATVs up and down this dirt road are undoubtedly having a whale of a time, and will probably be talking for several days about how great it was and how good they feel. But I question how much nature has to do with it.