USFS and BLM Land Camping Issues

[joey]

If you have mining rights to blm, can you still make people get off the land?  I thought they just couldn't do whatever you have the rights for.<br /><br />Even if you 'win' the argument with the guy, hes gonna hassle you from then on.  I would just move anyway i think, unless they really ticked me off.<br /><br /><br /><br />

You only have rights to the minerals in or on the ground,not the whole area.It is perfectly legal for someone to camp on or walk through your claim.

[joey]

Here is a link to the USGS website where you can get maps. http://store.usgs.gov/b2c_usgs/b2c/display/%28xcm=r3standardpitrex_prd&layout=6_1_61_50_2&uiarea=2&ctype=areaDetails&carea=0000000009%29/.do

[joey]

here is one where you can find the exact area you want and order it. http://mapserver.mytopo.com/homepage/index.cfm?lat=33.6643438&lon=-114.237852&scale=24000&zoom=100&type=1&icon=0&searchscope=dom&CFID=16663107&CFTOKEN=92957463&scriptfile=http://mapserver.mytopo.com/homepage/index.cfm&latlontype=DMS

[twokniveskatie]

DSPS91- I camped one night north of lake havasu. Don't remember how far from town, I also remember someone saying there was camping near the airport. Where I camped it was beautiful but noisy, obvious a favorite spot for 4 wheeling.

The thing I remember most was the total lack of phone service there. Could not get one bar of service with Verizon. That has never happened to me in civilization before. Swankie had the same problem. That was the year we were loosely caravaning from the Q to Pahrump. I think we each ended up taking different routes. Cheri took the L-O-N-G way around instead of turning left at Vegas. We almost had to send a posse out for her! This was before she had Tony the Tiger to navigate for her :-)

[twokniveskatie]

Omg I have to fix this thread. Think there is a link that needs shortening. Hard to tell on my little screen.

[HoboBerg]

Has anybody here stayed on BLM land around Lake Havasu?

Yep Just North of Lake Havasu after the Airport heading north its on your right craggy wash.

[josephusminimus]

If you have mining rights to blm, can you still make people get off the land?  I thought they just couldn't do whatever you have the rights for.

Even if you 'win' the argument with the guy, hes gonna hassle you from then on.  I would just move anyway i think, unless they really ticked me off.

It's multi-use land, generally.  Not so much a matter of whether you can run someone off, as of someone running you off.  A mineral claim only means you have the right to get minerals off the claim and do the various things allowed by law there, and allowed by USFS and BLM regulations.  Same as a grazing lease only grants the lease-holder to graze cows there, and whatever goes with that.  Sometimes the lease-holder's 'developed' the stream, etc, which might imply certain water rights.

I suppose you do have the right on a mineral claim to get uppidy if someone starts digging around on your claim looking for minerals.  I've never known anyone to do it, but I've heard stories of it happening.

[robylinski]

I think if I'm out boondocking, I pretty much want to be left alone.  I also know that I don't want any range cows messing with me, I've had enough of their destruction at my homestead.  So if someone wants me off their grazing lease, I think I just move somewhere I can enjoy the whole experience.

[josephusminimus]

I think if I'm out boondocking, I pretty much want to be left alone.  I also know that I don't want any range cows messing with me, I've had enough of their destruction at my homestead.  So if someone wants me off their grazing lease, I think I just move somewhere I can enjoy the whole experience.

A common aspiration, wanting to be left alone.  I've never been troubled by range cows on public land, but if I were I'd probably run them off or leave.  Range cows on public land tend to be somewhat wild, not attracted to campers in the places I've camped.

A person ought to do whatever he/she thinks is best, I reckons, under all circumstances including this one.